Don’t diss e-book commenters: They deserve annotation standards
June 2, 2006 | 1:55 pm
By David Rothman
Something wonderful happened to the TeleBlog when I added comments.
Partly because I did, traffic multiplied–increasing the value of the blog with new facts and extra insights. The comments are part of the WordPress database, and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Roland, Branko, Robert, Dan, Quinn, Garson, Sadi, Marcus, others, thank you!
Lines have blurred between commenters and formal contributors–in fact, most of this blog’s authors started out as commenters and continue at it. The TeleBlog is a series of conversations rather than broadcasts.
But what to do about e-books? Shouldn’t e-book standards extend beyond a core format and encompass reader comments, too? Better, what if the same comments could show up simultaneously on the Web as well and allow linking in one big universe, at least when authors and publishers and commenters favored an open approach?
Well, as a matter of fact, digital annotations are hardly new, and especially I’m intrigued by the Annotea project (helpful PDF here), as well as the related Annozilla efforts. Jon Noring and I and others are investigating the possibility of the OpenReader Consortium picking up or enriching these standards. One way or another, standards for annotations are a must. OSoft, our first implementer, which has been doing e-book annotations for several years, is open-minded. Who wants Adobe, Microsoft or another of the usual suspects to control annotation standards? I’d encourage you to share your thoughts. Among other requirements–this list is just a start–here’s what I myself would like in an annotations spec and implementations.
–Provisions for a universal spec that would encompass not just e-books but every conceivable digital object, from Moby Dick to a JPEG of Herman Melville or the sounds of a whale. The spec would promote interoperabilty of all kinds and open source applications to edit and view the annotations. In a follow-up post, Jon will expand on this universal concept and go far, far beyond e-books. The new Web could offer more of a social vision, with greater focus on bringing people together, not just integrating content from different sites.
–The ability to turn off comments and other forms of annotations, so that they don’t distract from the main text. Even when displayed, they ideally won’t overwhelm more than necessary.
–An easy interface for both reading and writing annotations.
–Web/e-book capability, so that books can pick up comments from the Web and vice versa. There should be a network of servers to store the comments permanently.
–The ability of books to pull in annotations from different sources.
–Full-strength metadata capability for those wanting it, along with the related filtering it will make possible. Readers should be able to call up annotations by book, precise topic, comment author, level of authority, and so on.
–Provisons for moderation as needed.
–The ability to do annotations of annotations.
–Easy updating through Wiki-style interface–plus the ability to see old versions. The Wikipedia is awesome. Not only can you read old versions of pages, but you can compare them line by line, a “must.”
–The ability of authors to delete their comments, at least in a certain period of time–just so records are kept of deletions. Jon Noring doesn’t want anything to be deletable. A compromise might be to send the comments to an archive from which they would not be accessible for X number of years. I don’t know. Snoopy ‘crats out of D.C. might well insist on access to the archives.
–Lack of dependence on a for-profit vendor. I certainly want the annotations to be available to Google, Amazon or other companies for indexing and mining. But do we want to entrust storage and access to them? Already Amazon is already allowing annotations of various e-books, but it’s a proprietary island.
–Perhaps some kind of a systematized tie-in of annotations with social networking–with open source software. In some ways annotations are social networks in disguise. I can appreciate this from a blog perspective–some of my best relationships with other bloggers have happened by my watching or their watching referrer files. Annotations should pave the way for social networking, based on shared ideas and values.
All right, so what do you think should be in the spec and implementations; and what are some applications-related ideas–both inside and outside the world of e-books? Go ahead! Enrich the TeleBlog database with your insights–looking ahead to the time when perhaps someday your can even use the blog to create annotations for the e-books you specify. Much of this may overlap with past thoughts from my friends over at the if:book blog–being used to explain and track the Sophie project–and I’d love to hear from them.



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Comments:
Thanks for the mention David!
About the annotations…I think it’s a bit science fiction right now…
Doing it enclosed in the book would make it a bit “boring” in a way, like scribbling in the margins.
A different aspect would be this:
Take the time-train and get off in the not-so-far future.
The following thing has finally happened:
We have a global wireless network, standardized for access (all devices can connect to the internet with their wireless capablility, no more UMTS vs. WiFi vs. Bluetooth, vs. WiBro vs. GPRS vs. EDGE vs….) and there is an “interantional flatrate” at a very affordable price making the words “always online” finally come true (this is a big part of my personal dream which I have had ever since I got addicted to the interent…^^).
Now users can read books on their devices (eink, laptop, tablet, PDA, whatever…maybe brain-implanted directly wetwired reading hardware) anywhere they like, the embeddded “forums” let them discuss the books with other people reading the same book and even share their “margin-scribbles” in realtime. For fiction books this feature will probably remain rather uninteresting…of course a discussion gruop where you can point out certain passeges of the book to your fellow addictees would be cool, but basically this could happen with todays forums as well…and it does happen…
Science, educational reading and of course controversial documentaries could however greatly benefit from this if it is done right…imagine reading a passage in a complicated book an not understanding it…you could then contact your co-readers/learners and ask them about it and have a solution in a couple of minutes, wherever you are…
Also wiki-style books could emerge. Today we have so much knowledge around, that an individual person can only have a very limited insight into most topics, even if he/she strives hard to keep up with developments. Writing a book about something, then updating it with user-input, correcting errors in realtime that then are instantaneously broadcasted to the millions of devices that have that book on them at the moment…those are just a few of the fabulous possibilities.
the trouble is:
It’s a future vision!
It has many inherent dangers…making the system too “open” would quickly swamp the wiki-blog-book whatever works with lost of misinformation, both from malicious and benign sources (sometimes you belive you know, but actually you don’t and are talking rubbish—that sort of thing…).
Making it too “closed” qouls mean that you destroy the benefits, censoring the good and the bad and basically doing lot of work yourself to destroy a lot of work others did/are doing.
So basically you end up with a lot of possibilities and a lot of risks for the future…and we have to decide now which paths to take, because every small step we make now is one that may lead to all sorts of consequenses later on.
Did that make any sense?
Oh..I forgot…
Input is going to be a major issue with all things digital very soon.
Already there are devices out there that just can’t be used to their full potential because of interfac/input issues.
And thanks for your fast reply, Roland–a perfect illustration of the value of comments even if we don’t agree on everything, or maybe especially because we have different perspectives. I believe that with moderation and filtering, the S/N ratio would be good and readers wouldn’t be swamped. As for real time, it isn’t science fiction. OpenReader’s dotReader implementation will have that feature in the near future. (Hey, apologies for the OR mention, but I guess it’s relevant here.) As for wiki books, I love the idea in appropriate situations! Thanks again, Roland. I just wish I had more time to comment on your comments. I’d encourage you to add to them, and others to join in. David
An important point is that annotations are not actually attached to the target digital objects, but simply point to them — just like putting a link into a web page pointing to another web page does not alter the target web page at all. In fact, a digital annotation may be thought of as an stand-alone link with some commentary (and metadata) attached to it.
About the OR mention…^^
can you elaborate on the “realtime” feature?
I can only imagine this working for a PC/Mac reding software at the moment…
Well, we’re talking about the dotReader implementation, although I’d certainly hope that others could include it and that standards could address the issue. IM-style capabilities, if I have my druthers, could be used in a paragraph by paragraph context. For more info, catch up with Mark Carey at OSoft (markNOSPSMosoft.com). Thanks. David
In the past on this blog I have commented on the difficulty of implementing a viable system for annotations of electronic objects. However, I do believe annotations are very important and that a useful system can be built. Below is an example where integrated annotations would be quite helpful.
The novel Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury is about book censorship and methods of societal control. The “firemen” in Bradbury’s work do not extinguish fires instead they initiate fires in order to burn forbidden books and libraries. The most fascinating character is Beatty, the chief book-burner, and the multifarious antagonist. Author Bradbury chose to make Beatty the most erudite and well-read person in the volume so that he could be a mesmerizing paradoxical foil. Beatty’s words are filled with quotes and allusions to literary works and a fuller understanding is obtained by understanding these references.
Fortunately, Dr. Willi Real has created a web page that compiles information tracing the quotes and allusions in Fahrenheit 451. This high-quality data is precisely what should appear in annotations that are integrated with the Bradbury’s text in my opinion. The attempt to build an open standard for annotations should be encouraged and applauded.
This is great, Garson–especially since I know a librarian whose father knows Bradbury and is an authority on his work. Thanks! David
I don’t see how a moderation system for annotations could ever work at all. Now I could see competing moderation-based systems along with an anarchical “anyone-can-anotate-anything” combo. But some sort of single universal moderation system that employs moderation is absolutley doomed.
I would like to see a system kind of like the Mycroft search project, where I could tell my browser that I want to see annotations from X,Y, Z and be able to easily add to that list.