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		<title>By: Trey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 05:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Print books are much more difficult to  patrie  (or whatever the word is) than are ebooks simply because of the tediousness involved in copying them. Granted, perhaps since the Xerox machine was invented, students have been photocopying entire textbooks at a fraction of the cost of what they would have paid for the book itself   albeit not for free. At a dime per page, a 400-page textbook works out to $40, which is maybe half or even a third of what they&#039;d have paid at the bookstore. There&#039;s also the time involved in flipping the book over, turning the pages, re-copying them if some end up upside down, and so forth.But with the rapid-fire, instant-gratification simplicity of ebooks, the same relative ease with which an author can upload his/her book to Amazon, Smashwords, etc., so too can a self-described  hacktivist  be the  martyr  for his cause and plunk down the $2-$10 s/he set the price, and upload it in seconds to Pirate&#039;s Bay or Rapidshare. Ebooks take up far less disk space than do movie files or even MP3s   a high quality MP3 file in 320kb/s bit rate can be between 8 and 10 megabytes; a 128kb/s file, by contrast, somewhere between 4-6 MBs. Movie files such as .mp4 and .avi can be anywhere between 700 MB and 1 GB; full DVDs range between 4 and 9 gigabytes, while for Blu-Ray files, the sky&#039;s practically the limit.Meaning? Ebooks can actually fit in an email attachment if the government ever manages to shut down Rapidshare and Pirate&#039;s Bay. There&#039;s no way the feds or EU will close Gmail, Yahoo or Hotmail, and a .zip file of ebooks might come well under the usually 20MB/file (or total) limit for attachments. The only file types usually barred from being sent are executable files (programs or scripts) ending with extensions such as .vbs, .exe, .dmg or .run. Archive files, such as .rar, .zip and .7z are usually OK, which makes it easy to  hide  patried ebooks in archives for easy sending of copyrighted material, practically undetected even by the email service itself (if password-protected archives are used). So an archive named  Legal Reports.zip  might contain John Grisham&#039;s entire biography, even though its file name looks relatively innocuous, as though someone from a law firm were sending it to a colleague.The example above shows that media patries are arguably as creative as writers/artists, but much lazier, in that they only seek to  distribute the wealth  of other people&#039;s work rather than coming up with anything original themselves. Coelho and Doctorow are doing a disservice to content creators by blatantly sleeping with the enemy here, distributing their own works via these otherwise illicit channels as an effort to show how  legit  Pirate&#039;s Bay and the patrie  movement  are as a whole. It may be no more than a drop in the bucket for Grisham, or even for Coelho and Doctorow, but it&#039;s a significant loss for authors, one that I believe turns people away from, or at least ignites fear, of losing sales to the  free, libre open-source socialism  so-called  revolution.  Pirate&#039;s Bay doesn&#039;t want to go  legit.  It sees no problem with giving away things that people need and deserve to be paid for, and that they have NOT, in most cases, authorized permission to give away for free.Paper may not save trees, but it saves books and protects authors. Self-pub is not necessarily the enemy; digital documents are that contain copyrighted material. If there were viable self-pub solutions that allowed authors to choose whether or not they allowed e-books as part of their overall supply of material, then that would be mutually beneficial. Also, if there could be some solution worked out that prevented digital documents from being illegally distributed without permission from the author   not to mention if there could be some viable solution that shut down sites like Pirate&#039;s Bay and forced it out of  business  (ironically, it is one of the most profitable websites on the Internet today, which is a real hoot considering its entire mission is to give things away for free).Compare the  free  cost of pirating a .pdf or .epub   not to mention the tedious effort involved in flipping paper books over on a Xerox machine   to the ~$20-$40 involved in Xeroxing a book PER COPY, and the hours spent Xeroxing it   paper is clearly the solution when it comes to curbing piracy. I wish Amazon, Smashwords, etc. enabled would-be authors to bypass e-books when submitting to their website, and that they only functioned as a POD  catalogue  of sorts   that one could still  self-pub  with Amazon and have your book available for purchase on its site but NOT as an e-book if one so chooses.Sorry if I would like to make a full-time living from my writing now that the agency model is closing its doors to newbies all for good, and not be forced give things away just because it&#039;s  art  or because teenage punks bullying people on 4chan want something for nothing and don&#039;t care who they hurt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Print books are much more difficult to  patrie  (or whatever the word is) than are ebooks simply because of the tediousness involved in copying them. Granted, perhaps since the Xerox machine was invented, students have been photocopying entire textbooks at a fraction of the cost of what they would have paid for the book itself   albeit not for free. At a dime per page, a 400-page textbook works out to $40, which is maybe half or even a third of what they&#8217;d have paid at the bookstore. There&#8217;s also the time involved in flipping the book over, turning the pages, re-copying them if some end up upside down, and so forth.But with the rapid-fire, instant-gratification simplicity of ebooks, the same relative ease with which an author can upload his/her book to Amazon, Smashwords, etc., so too can a self-described  hacktivist  be the  martyr  for his cause and plunk down the $2-$10 s/he set the price, and upload it in seconds to Pirate&#8217;s Bay or Rapidshare. Ebooks take up far less disk space than do movie files or even MP3s   a high quality MP3 file in 320kb/s bit rate can be between 8 and 10 megabytes; a 128kb/s file, by contrast, somewhere between 4-6 MBs. Movie files such as .mp4 and .avi can be anywhere between 700 MB and 1 GB; full DVDs range between 4 and 9 gigabytes, while for Blu-Ray files, the sky&#8217;s practically the limit.Meaning? Ebooks can actually fit in an email attachment if the government ever manages to shut down Rapidshare and Pirate&#8217;s Bay. There&#8217;s no way the feds or EU will close Gmail, Yahoo or Hotmail, and a .zip file of ebooks might come well under the usually 20MB/file (or total) limit for attachments. The only file types usually barred from being sent are executable files (programs or scripts) ending with extensions such as .vbs, .exe, .dmg or .run. Archive files, such as .rar, .zip and .7z are usually OK, which makes it easy to  hide  patried ebooks in archives for easy sending of copyrighted material, practically undetected even by the email service itself (if password-protected archives are used). So an archive named  Legal Reports.zip  might contain John Grisham&#8217;s entire biography, even though its file name looks relatively innocuous, as though someone from a law firm were sending it to a colleague.The example above shows that media patries are arguably as creative as writers/artists, but much lazier, in that they only seek to  distribute the wealth  of other people&#8217;s work rather than coming up with anything original themselves. Coelho and Doctorow are doing a disservice to content creators by blatantly sleeping with the enemy here, distributing their own works via these otherwise illicit channels as an effort to show how  legit  Pirate&#8217;s Bay and the patrie  movement  are as a whole. It may be no more than a drop in the bucket for Grisham, or even for Coelho and Doctorow, but it&#8217;s a significant loss for authors, one that I believe turns people away from, or at least ignites fear, of losing sales to the  free, libre open-source socialism  so-called  revolution.  Pirate&#8217;s Bay doesn&#8217;t want to go  legit.  It sees no problem with giving away things that people need and deserve to be paid for, and that they have NOT, in most cases, authorized permission to give away for free.Paper may not save trees, but it saves books and protects authors. Self-pub is not necessarily the enemy; digital documents are that contain copyrighted material. If there were viable self-pub solutions that allowed authors to choose whether or not they allowed e-books as part of their overall supply of material, then that would be mutually beneficial. Also, if there could be some solution worked out that prevented digital documents from being illegally distributed without permission from the author   not to mention if there could be some viable solution that shut down sites like Pirate&#8217;s Bay and forced it out of  business  (ironically, it is one of the most profitable websites on the Internet today, which is a real hoot considering its entire mission is to give things away for free).Compare the  free  cost of pirating a .pdf or .epub   not to mention the tedious effort involved in flipping paper books over on a Xerox machine   to the ~$20-$40 involved in Xeroxing a book PER COPY, and the hours spent Xeroxing it   paper is clearly the solution when it comes to curbing piracy. I wish Amazon, Smashwords, etc. enabled would-be authors to bypass e-books when submitting to their website, and that they only functioned as a POD  catalogue  of sorts   that one could still  self-pub  with Amazon and have your book available for purchase on its site but NOT as an e-book if one so chooses.Sorry if I would like to make a full-time living from my writing now that the agency model is closing its doors to newbies all for good, and not be forced give things away just because it&#8217;s  art  or because teenage punks bullying people on 4chan want something for nothing and don&#8217;t care who they hurt.</p>
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		<title>By: Dario</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dario</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2013 16:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, a quick and dirty translation of the beginning of the article:

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The Hispanic origins of the electronic reader: Angela Ruiz Robles or the innovation in teaching.

By Daniel Gonzalez de la Rivera Grandal and Juan Jose Moreno Navarro

A country can be described by how it treats his great people when they are alive and after death. Newton remainings are in the Westminster Abbey, next to kings, prime ministers and other great Britain people. The great mathematician Alan Turing has received praise after his death, although not yet forgiveness for his incarceration. Paris pantheon of illustrious people boasts of having the graves of the greatest French minds, among them a high number of scientists and inventors, as Marie Curie (two times Nobel price winner), Pierre Curie (Nobel price winner) or Louis Braille.

Unfortunately, Spain case is different, and the difference is not in how it sends away it best minds but the lack of recognition both to the person and to his contributions. We could show various examples, but we will set on one where her imagination only falls short of the ignorance about her inventions. Moreover it is paradigmatic on some problems of research and development and education of this country. We are referring to Angela Ruiz Robles. You don&#039;t recognize this name? Surprisingly this teacher born in Leon should be recorded in history books as the electronic book inventor. Regrettably all the praise (and the economic benefits that it carries) is for Michael Hart, that is seen as its inventor in 1971. But long time before, in 1949, Angela Ruiz Robles filed a patent (patent number 190.698) and developed a further prototype of her mechanic book.

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Well, the article continues after that, if a quick google translate hints of something of your interest, say it and I can translate that part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a quick and dirty translation of the beginning of the article:</p>
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The Hispanic origins of the electronic reader: Angela Ruiz Robles or the innovation in teaching.</p>
<p>By Daniel Gonzalez de la Rivera Grandal and Juan Jose Moreno Navarro</p>
<p>A country can be described by how it treats his great people when they are alive and after death. Newton remainings are in the Westminster Abbey, next to kings, prime ministers and other great Britain people. The great mathematician Alan Turing has received praise after his death, although not yet forgiveness for his incarceration. Paris pantheon of illustrious people boasts of having the graves of the greatest French minds, among them a high number of scientists and inventors, as Marie Curie (two times Nobel price winner), Pierre Curie (Nobel price winner) or Louis Braille.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Spain case is different, and the difference is not in how it sends away it best minds but the lack of recognition both to the person and to his contributions. We could show various examples, but we will set on one where her imagination only falls short of the ignorance about her inventions. Moreover it is paradigmatic on some problems of research and development and education of this country. We are referring to Angela Ruiz Robles. You don&#8217;t recognize this name? Surprisingly this teacher born in Leon should be recorded in history books as the electronic book inventor. Regrettably all the praise (and the economic benefits that it carries) is for Michael Hart, that is seen as its inventor in 1971. But long time before, in 1949, Angela Ruiz Robles filed a patent (patent number 190.698) and developed a further prototype of her mechanic book.</p>
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<p>Well, the article continues after that, if a quick google translate hints of something of your interest, say it and I can translate that part.</p>
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		<title>By: Juli Monroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juli Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, you&#039;re right. I misread it. Still very cool that someone was thinking along e-reader lines that long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, you&#8217;re right. I misread it. Still very cool that someone was thinking along e-reader lines that long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Eldridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Eldridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juli: I could be wrong — the &lt;em&gt;NY Daily News&lt;/em&gt; article unfortunately didn&#039;t go into much detail about the device itself — but I don&#039;t believe there was anything electronic about it at all. 

In fact, I should have been clearer about that in the post, but from what I can gather, it was basically an analog precursor to the e-reader of today. I found some old photos of it online that do show a bit more detail, and it looks like the &quot;spools with pre-loaded content&quot; that were mentioned in the article were essentially very small scrolls. A book, for instance, would be printed on a very long, continuous strip of paper and wrapped around a small spool. 

As for the article&#039;s mention of &quot;a zoom function,&quot; I don&#039;t know what that means, but I&#039;ll bet it was something like a magnifying glass. At any rate, I&#039;m going to try to speak with someone at the museum in La Coruña, where this thing is housed, to see if I can&#039;t get a better explanation about the device itself and/or its history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juli: I could be wrong — the <em>NY Daily News</em> article unfortunately didn&#8217;t go into much detail about the device itself — but I don&#8217;t believe there was anything electronic about it at all. </p>
<p>In fact, I should have been clearer about that in the post, but from what I can gather, it was basically an analog precursor to the e-reader of today. I found some old photos of it online that do show a bit more detail, and it looks like the &#8220;spools with pre-loaded content&#8221; that were mentioned in the article were essentially very small scrolls. A book, for instance, would be printed on a very long, continuous strip of paper and wrapped around a small spool. </p>
<p>As for the article&#8217;s mention of &#8220;a zoom function,&#8221; I don&#8217;t know what that means, but I&#8217;ll bet it was something like a magnifying glass. At any rate, I&#8217;m going to try to speak with someone at the museum in La Coruña, where this thing is housed, to see if I can&#8217;t get a better explanation about the device itself and/or its history.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Eldridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Eldridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 01:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mvg: Thanks so much for pointing that out - you&#039;re absolutely right; I listed the wrong name. I&#039;ll make the correction(s) now. Appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mvg: Thanks so much for pointing that out &#8211; you&#8217;re absolutely right; I listed the wrong name. I&#8217;ll make the correction(s) now. Appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: mvg</title>
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		<dc:creator>mvg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, according to the original article, the inventor was Ángela Ruiz Robles. Ms. Fortiz was a language instructor talking ABOUT Ms. Ruiz Robles. The original article is a bit loose w/its pronouns, so the confusion is excusable - but credit where credit&#039;s due.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, according to the original article, the inventor was Ángela Ruiz Robles. Ms. Fortiz was a language instructor talking ABOUT Ms. Ruiz Robles. The original article is a bit loose w/its pronouns, so the confusion is excusable &#8211; but credit where credit&#8217;s due.</p>
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		<title>By: Juli Monroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juli Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 21:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool. I&#039;m surprised at how small it is. I know that was the point but still. Anything electronic was huge that long ago. Too bad it never say production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool. I&#8217;m surprised at how small it is. I know that was the point but still. Anything electronic was huge that long ago. Too bad it never say production.</p>
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