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	<title>Comments on: Flipick To Allow ePub3 from Adobe InDesign</title>
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		<title>By: BangBangO</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/epub/flipick-to-allow-epub3-from-adobe-indesign/comment-page-1/#comment-1250731</link>
		<dc:creator>BangBangO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@juli

Consider Paul&#039;s opinion to be widely shared. Adobe&#039;s management of EPUB is a joke and it is eventually doing a lot of harm to the standard...

Because they --wrongly -- thought EPUB could just be an export option, it is really really bad. And because it is bad, it has a huge impact on the whole ecosystem, with eReading apps developers having to deal with the unmanageable. As a matter of consequence, those devs have to alter styles, and in some cases, alter the entire file so that it is not unreadable. 

InDesign even export styles that Adobe&#039;s own RMSDK doesn&#039;t manage. That is pathetic, especially as their RMSDK is used by the vast majority of apps, vendors, etc. 
In other words, InDesign isn&#039;t even adapted to the RMSDK which prevails while the same company is making both of them. 

Adobe and its evangelists are boasting they offer the best tools? Concerning EPUB, they are just screwing the whole ecosystem.

And designers and publishers are not so much guilty in this case, they just don&#039;t know. It&#039;s Adobe&#039;s fault because it is telling them there is no ebook problem, just export and voila. Well, it is definitely not, and ebooks have their own design requirements. Had Adobe&#039;s been honest, it should have released an EPUB prod app with inDesign compatibility. And now, what are they doing? Building a bridge between InDesign EPUB and dreamweaver... It&#039;s like admitting InDesign failed to manage EPUB but still making the bad decisions: ebooks are not an hybrid of print and web. Never. 

So please Adobe, stop making harm and start being serious about ebooks. At the moment, you are just an insane problem which is pushing the EPUB standard to its long and winding death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@juli</p>
<p>Consider Paul&#8217;s opinion to be widely shared. Adobe&#8217;s management of EPUB is a joke and it is eventually doing a lot of harm to the standard&#8230;</p>
<p>Because they &#8211;wrongly &#8212; thought EPUB could just be an export option, it is really really bad. And because it is bad, it has a huge impact on the whole ecosystem, with eReading apps developers having to deal with the unmanageable. As a matter of consequence, those devs have to alter styles, and in some cases, alter the entire file so that it is not unreadable. </p>
<p>InDesign even export styles that Adobe&#8217;s own RMSDK doesn&#8217;t manage. That is pathetic, especially as their RMSDK is used by the vast majority of apps, vendors, etc.<br />
In other words, InDesign isn&#8217;t even adapted to the RMSDK which prevails while the same company is making both of them. </p>
<p>Adobe and its evangelists are boasting they offer the best tools? Concerning EPUB, they are just screwing the whole ecosystem.</p>
<p>And designers and publishers are not so much guilty in this case, they just don&#8217;t know. It&#8217;s Adobe&#8217;s fault because it is telling them there is no ebook problem, just export and voila. Well, it is definitely not, and ebooks have their own design requirements. Had Adobe&#8217;s been honest, it should have released an EPUB prod app with inDesign compatibility. And now, what are they doing? Building a bridge between InDesign EPUB and dreamweaver&#8230; It&#8217;s like admitting InDesign failed to manage EPUB but still making the bad decisions: ebooks are not an hybrid of print and web. Never. </p>
<p>So please Adobe, stop making harm and start being serious about ebooks. At the moment, you are just an insane problem which is pushing the EPUB standard to its long and winding death.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Bailey</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/epub/flipick-to-allow-epub3-from-adobe-indesign/comment-page-1/#comment-1239834</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 19:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flipick is currently in beta, so you can register, download the InDesign plugins and try this out for yourselves all free of charge.  Once the beta stage is over, there will be a nominal charge for creating the ebooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flipick is currently in beta, so you can register, download the InDesign plugins and try this out for yourselves all free of charge.  Once the beta stage is over, there will be a nominal charge for creating the ebooks.</p>
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		<title>By: Juli Monroe</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/epub/flipick-to-allow-epub3-from-adobe-indesign/comment-page-1/#comment-1238441</link>
		<dc:creator>Juli Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, I admit I was thinking about you and your InDesign opinion while I wrote the article. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, I admit I was thinking about you and your InDesign opinion while I wrote the article. <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Salvette</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/epub/flipick-to-allow-epub3-from-adobe-indesign/comment-page-1/#comment-1238340</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Salvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;d be interesting to see the HTML/XML/CSS that Flipick exports. The usual InDesign exported code is pretty heinous looking. Perhaps they can improve upon it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;d be interesting to see the HTML/XML/CSS that Flipick exports. The usual InDesign exported code is pretty heinous looking. Perhaps they can improve upon it.</p>
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		<title>By: Juli Monroe</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/epub/flipick-to-allow-epub3-from-adobe-indesign/comment-page-1/#comment-1238330</link>
		<dc:creator>Juli Monroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, something tells me the main users of this, for a while at least, will be publishers selling books from their own sites, not from Amazon or others. Publishers like O&#039;Reilly, although I&#039;m sure they&#039;ve got their own tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, something tells me the main users of this, for a while at least, will be publishers selling books from their own sites, not from Amazon or others. Publishers like O&#8217;Reilly, although I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;ve got their own tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Rotem</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/epub/flipick-to-allow-epub3-from-adobe-indesign/comment-page-1/#comment-1238225</link>
		<dc:creator>Rotem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should distinguish between a reading system and authoring system such as Adobe InDesign.
As for reading systems for iOS as much as I know the best software is iBooks (which also has iBooks author for creating eBooks). 
For Android systems Helicon Books has the first fully EPUB3 compatible reader - http://www.heliconbooks.com/article/reader
 We also give EPUB3 conversion services</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should distinguish between a reading system and authoring system such as Adobe InDesign.<br />
As for reading systems for iOS as much as I know the best software is iBooks (which also has iBooks author for creating eBooks).<br />
For Android systems Helicon Books has the first fully EPUB3 compatible reader &#8211; <a href="http://www.heliconbooks.com/article/reader" rel="nofollow">http://www.heliconbooks.com/article/reader</a><br />
 We also give EPUB3 conversion services</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Salvette</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/epub/flipick-to-allow-epub3-from-adobe-indesign/comment-page-1/#comment-1238131</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Salvette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 03:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This will be useful...eventually. Right now the only major platforms that support even the most basic part of the EPUB3 spec is iBooks. We hope to see some more EPUB3 reading systems come on line here soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This will be useful&#8230;eventually. Right now the only major platforms that support even the most basic part of the EPUB3 spec is iBooks. We hope to see some more EPUB3 reading systems come on line here soon.</p>
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