Amazon removes incest-related erotica titles from store, Kindle archive
December 12, 2010 | 8:06 pm
By Chris Meadows
A discussion thread on Amazon’s Kindle Community forum notes that Amazon has begun removing some previously-published books or stories from its store, and from the Kindle archives. Readers who have previously downloaded them to their Kindles can keep them there, but cannot re-download them (and will be refunded the price of purchase assuming Amazon can still find the purchase record).
The story whose removal sparked the discussion was an erotica title called Wicked Lovely by author Jess C. Scott. The tale dealt with incest, and involved a love scene between a 17- and an 18-year-old. However, Amazon would not tell Scott specifically what caused the removal of her novel. The only response she has received, after repeatedly trying to contact Amazon for more information, is a form letter:
Dear Publisher,
As stated in our content guidelines, we reserve the right to determine what content we consider to be appropriate. This content includes both the cover art image and the content within the book.
Best regards,
Amazon Customer Service
http://www.amazon.com
Further down the thread, author Selena Kitt notes that Jess is not the only author to have had works removed.
Incest books (and they seem to be currently targeting incest – whether characters are eighteen or not in the book in question – all of my characters are eighteen or older and there is an explicit warning at the beginning of each book making that clear) are being pulled from Amazon as we speak. I’ve had three removed. Esmerelda Greene has had at least one pulled. There are several others that have disappeared as well.
A number of participants in the discussion compare this to the pedophilia how-to guide removal of last month, in which Amazon first said it would not be removing a book due to its commitment to principles of free speech—and then abruptly yanked it after all a couple of hours later.
On the other hand, I wonder how much this might have to do with the big news story that broke recently of a Columbia University professor being arrested for a three-year “consensual” sexual relationship with his 24-year-old daughter. If incest is a hot topic in the news right now, it might be that Amazon is trying to preempt complaints from people who might search for “incest” on Amazon and then be offended when they find it—or it could be reacting to such complaints from people who already have.
Amazon has done this sort of thing before, of course. The example everyone remembers is the improperly-sold George Orwell titles that were actually removed from Kindles as well as from the store, leading Jeff Bezos to apologize and promise not to do that again. But if you web-search “amazonfail”, the top results point to a more apt example: Amazon’s 2009 self-admittedly “embarrassing and ham-fisted” removal of 57,000 gay-and-lesbian-themed books from its sales rankings and search algorithms.
Jess C. Scott points out:
The content guidelines on Amazon do not have clear guidelines as to what is considered as "acceptable" in the erotica genre. I see other similarly-themed books still available for purchase, and see books with the subjects of rape, bestiality, etc, available for purchase (books that have not been deleted from Amazon’s catalog). If underage sex is illegal, why is Vladimir Nabokov’s "Lolita" still available for purchase?
Whatever your feelings are concerning incest, or its portrayal in fiction, every book in the entire “erotica” genre probably contains something that will be offensive to someone. And yet it is also one of the best-selling genres in electronic literature.
And Amazon’s failure to define clear categories or to provide an explanation of where the bright lines are could have a chilling effect on writers similar to that of Apple’s often-arbitrary app store rejections of the last few years on developers. How can you know whether any given story dealing with risqué issues will be considered acceptable?
Of course, Amazon is under no obligation to carry any title it deems offensive—it’s only a violation of the First Amendment if the government or a government-connected body acts to prohibit speech—but hopefully it will provide some further explanation of what the grounds for rejection are.



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I do not have a problem with Amazon I am only too pleased that they are taking the strain & hopeful of a happy relationaship as I had with about a thousand young women from my age of 49 to 55 when I ran my agency. Sadly there is no genre of Non-fiction equisite discussion of unspeakably enjoyably factual sex. I contacted them prior to writing my book to see if they had any objection to the content. To be fair to them Amazon did ring me & said they were complaint led which means that they wait for complaints rather than police incoming stock too closely & were very nice about it. These no this & that comments that they do are I think about who takes the responsibilitity if a storm of complaints follow. The only complaint that I have is that for the eight months I spent writing it I had a constant hard on. What was worse is that I was in my farmhouse in the French contryside & had a serious hard-on writing about it for all of that time & no girls to help unless I went up to Paris by which time I had lost interest! Thank you so much for your comments, English Christopher B.
Just to come back to the thread about incest of course everyone has their limits as to what they feel comfortable as a subject to write & although I have few limits & go right up against the sexual limits of where I can go I can see that a lot of people would be uncomfortable with incest, although the writing may be superb & magical. Further there is an absolute injunction against under-age sex which I cannot remember at all when I was hunted down at the age of 15 by a madeningly lovely 34 year old woman who made me love women in a gourmet way up to this day. I did have quite a few 15 year olds applying for me for work but not only being illegal in the UK but also psychlogically unsuitable for such work at that age, & dangerous ticking bombs waiting to go off in your face! Kind regards
Indeed. Amazon are entitled to sell whatever they like and not sell whatever they like. It’s not censorship, it’s retailers freedom. I am sure there are other sources of the same books elsewhere on the web.
Their demand for a label is ridiculous and patronising.
A guideline is the least they should provide, out of common courtesy.
I AM AN AMAZON.COM CUSTOMER. I HAVE BEEN A CUSTOMER SINCE 2003. AMAZON IS THE “BEST WAY TO GO,” WHEN PURCHASING MUSIC CDs AND HARD-TO-FIND BOOKS AND MUSIC. RECENTLY, I WROTE A CUSTOMER REVIEW FOR A BOOK OF MALE-HOMOEROTIC COMICS ["Meatmen: An Anthology of Gay Male Comics-Volume One"]. WHEN I FIRST SAW THE BOOK ON AMAZON’S SITE, IT WAS PRESENTED IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM. THE ORIGINAL FRONT COVER WAS A DRAWING OF TWO MALES IN BED – ONE WAS IN HIS UNDERWEAR AND “IN A STATE OF AROUSAL.” NOW, WHEN THIS BOOK IS SEEN ON AMAZON’S SITE THE LOWER PORTION OF THE BOOK’S COVER HAS BEEN “WHITED-OUT.” IF AMAZON IS GOING TO SELL “RISQUE” PRODUCTS, IT IS WRONG TO CENSOR THEM AT A LATER DATE.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON
I disagree fundamentally. It is perfectly reasonable to censor a cover that appears to all and sundry on the site. I am no prude, but context is everything.
If people want to sell adult material they have a responsibility to make sure they take reasonable precautions in a market where there is no adults only section not accessible to minors.
“Howard,”
SIR, IT IS OBVIOUS YOU HAVE NOT LOOKED AT AMAZON’S SITE. SINCE YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT “ACCESSIBILITY TO MINORS,” SURELY, YOU KNOW TODAY’S CHILDREN ARE EXPERTS WHEN IT COMES TO OPERATING ELECTRONICS – COMPUTERS, i-PHONES, ETC. IF A CHILD IS ON AMAZON’S SITE AND TYPES IN THE WORD, “JEWELS” (FOR EXAMPLE), ONE OF THE ITEMS TO APPEAR WILL BE A MALE-NUDE-PHOTOGRAPHY BOOK COVER IN WHICH THE “UPPER PORTION” OF AN ADULT MALE’S “NETHER REGION” IS DISPLAYED. MANY ITEMS OF MALE-HOMOSEXUAL INTEREST (SOLD ON AMAZON’S SITE) HAVE VERY INNOCENT NAMES. THEREFORE, IT IS E-X-T-R-E-M-E-L-Y EASY FOR A CHILD TO SEE IMAGES OF ADULT-MALE NUDITY ON AMAZON. AMAZON ALSO HAS “MEDIUM-HARDCORE” MALE-ADULT DVDs [LATINO FAN CLUB TITLES]. “Howard,” WHENEVER YOU HAVE TIME, GO TO AMAZON’S SITE AND TYPE IN THE KEYWORDS, “MALE-NUDE-PHOTOGRAPHY” – WHICH ARE WORDS CHILDREN KNOW, QUITE WELL – YOU MAY BE SURPRISED AT WHAT YOU WILL FIND.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON
Yikes !