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	<title>Comments on: How DRM anticircumvention laws stifle innovation</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1206967</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 06:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DRM isn&#039;t used to track or monitor habits, you&#039;re confusing two different issues.  Besides that, what&#039;s so &quot;Patriot Act&quot;-ish about tracking habits?  If people want it, whats wrong with a system that tailors itself to the user?  What are they going to do with the information, divulge your secret love for Nancy Drew games?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DRM isn&#8217;t used to track or monitor habits, you&#8217;re confusing two different issues.  Besides that, what&#8217;s so &#8220;Patriot Act&#8221;-ish about tracking habits?  If people want it, whats wrong with a system that tailors itself to the user?  What are they going to do with the information, divulge your secret love for Nancy Drew games?</p>
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		<title>By: painkiller</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1206965</link>
		<dc:creator>painkiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drm/Steam is used to track and monitor PC gamers habits, purchases, links, etc.

thats not DRM thats &quot;the patriot act&quot; 

its only the dumb sheep that dont mind it, (80% of Americans.)

just quit buying it, supply and demand right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drm/Steam is used to track and monitor PC gamers habits, purchases, links, etc.</p>
<p>thats not DRM thats &#8220;the patriot act&#8221; </p>
<p>its only the dumb sheep that dont mind it, (80% of Americans.)</p>
<p>just quit buying it, supply and demand right?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1150144</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 13:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of my e-books are tagged for reflow... I&#039;ve tested them on my PDA many times.  (I stopped selling them, because no one ever, &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; ordered one in PDF.)  Be glad to send you one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of my e-books are tagged for reflow&#8230; I&#8217;ve tested them on my PDA many times.  (I stopped selling them, because no one ever, <i>ever</i> ordered one in PDF.)  Be glad to send you one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meadows</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1150133</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to put PDFs that are tagged for reflow in the same category as &quot;the tooth fairy&quot; or &quot;Santa Claus&quot;. &lt;i&gt;I&#039;ve&lt;/i&gt; never met one, and have only other people&#039;s word that they exist. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to put PDFs that are tagged for reflow in the same category as &#8220;the tooth fairy&#8221; or &#8220;Santa Claus&#8221;. <i>I&#8217;ve</i> never met one, and have only other people&#8217;s word that they exist. <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1150128</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Augh!&lt;/i&gt;  The PDF isn&#039;t even tagged for reflow!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Augh!</i>  The PDF isn&#8217;t even tagged for reflow!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meadows</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1150124</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve: I&#039;m not sure what&#039;s wrong with innovating around other people&#039;s work. We&#039;re not talking about remixes or mashups here, we&#039;re talking about making existing systems better. Examples cited in the paper talk about hobbyists devising better systems of bindings for skis, or improving open-source software.

Because audio CDs are in an open format, people have been able to create a wide variety of players and other ways to access them—hardware, software, CD jukeboxes, rippers. With DVDs, that can&#039;t be done, because you have to get permission from and pay fees to the DVD consortium, and you are limited in what you can do.

&quot;Disruptive&quot; innovation often threatens the business models of existing companies, but at the same time often offers great benefits for the consumers—and indeed, for the business itself. The home VCR was such a disruptive innovation: the movie industry didn&#039;t like it, Valenti compared it to the Boston Strangler—but within a few years, it had literally &lt;i&gt;created&lt;/i&gt; a revenue stream for the movie industry worth billions of dollars where none had existed before.

At any rate, you should &quot;fight through the document&quot;. It&#039;s fascinating, but a little hard to summarize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve: I&#8217;m not sure what&#8217;s wrong with innovating around other people&#8217;s work. We&#8217;re not talking about remixes or mashups here, we&#8217;re talking about making existing systems better. Examples cited in the paper talk about hobbyists devising better systems of bindings for skis, or improving open-source software.</p>
<p>Because audio CDs are in an open format, people have been able to create a wide variety of players and other ways to access them—hardware, software, CD jukeboxes, rippers. With DVDs, that can&#8217;t be done, because you have to get permission from and pay fees to the DVD consortium, and you are limited in what you can do.</p>
<p>&#8220;Disruptive&#8221; innovation often threatens the business models of existing companies, but at the same time often offers great benefits for the consumers—and indeed, for the business itself. The home VCR was such a disruptive innovation: the movie industry didn&#8217;t like it, Valenti compared it to the Boston Strangler—but within a few years, it had literally <i>created</i> a revenue stream for the movie industry worth billions of dollars where none had existed before.</p>
<p>At any rate, you should &#8220;fight through the document&#8221;. It&#8217;s fascinating, but a little hard to summarize.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Sorotokin</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1150091</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Sorotokin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 16:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

You are correct that by the nature of DRM, a vendor would need Adobe SDK license to create software for reading DRMed EPUBs. However you assumptions about that significantly limiting the feature set are incorrect. Adobe SDK comes with complete source code and has a lot of customizable features. Certainly the features that you mention are both easily achievable without any SDK code modifications. As vendors have more time for development, I am sure you&#039;ll see them innovate in various ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>You are correct that by the nature of DRM, a vendor would need Adobe SDK license to create software for reading DRMed EPUBs. However you assumptions about that significantly limiting the feature set are incorrect. Adobe SDK comes with complete source code and has a lot of customizable features. Certainly the features that you mention are both easily achievable without any SDK code modifications. As vendors have more time for development, I am sure you&#8217;ll see them innovate in various ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1150080</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bob, that seems to be confusing &quot;innovation&quot; for &quot;choices.&quot;  I agree, DRM limits choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bob, that seems to be confusing &#8220;innovation&#8221; for &#8220;choices.&#8221;  I agree, DRM limits choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob W</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1150077</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t surprising.  Open standard stimulate competition and innovation.  DRM is by it&#039;s very nature proprietary.

If you take ePub as an example.  Without DRM there would be multiple vendors creating reading software, adding innovative features within a standard framework.  People could select the reading software with the features that best meet their needs.

With Adobe DRM everyone is using Adobe&#039;s SDK and limited feature set.  Want to change your font while reading?  Too bad.  Want to embolden the font for improved contrast?  Too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t surprising.  Open standard stimulate competition and innovation.  DRM is by it&#8217;s very nature proprietary.</p>
<p>If you take ePub as an example.  Without DRM there would be multiple vendors creating reading software, adding innovative features within a standard framework.  People could select the reading software with the features that best meet their needs.</p>
<p>With Adobe DRM everyone is using Adobe&#8217;s SDK and limited feature set.  Want to change your font while reading?  Too bad.  Want to embolden the font for improved contrast?  Too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/how-drm-anticircumvention-laws-stifle-innovation/comment-page-1/#comment-1150071</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, you&#039;re just gonna make us fight through the document, huh?  Because as this is written, I don&#039;t see how DRM laws stifle innovation, other than innovation &lt;i&gt;on someone else&#039;s protected work&lt;/i&gt;.  That doesn&#039;t mean that there&#039;s &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; innovation, just a restriction on one kind of innovation, the kind the originator obviously doesn&#039;t want done to their work.  

That means the DRM is only there to enforce what the copyright laws already establish--assuming, as the doc points out, it isn&#039;t just broken.  And since the doc seems to point out that DRM can be and is easily broken, I&#039;m not sure how it is stifling anything.

Now, if the doc maintained that &lt;i&gt;copyright law was stifling innovation&lt;/i&gt;, we might have an issue to debate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you&#8217;re just gonna make us fight through the document, huh?  Because as this is written, I don&#8217;t see how DRM laws stifle innovation, other than innovation <i>on someone else&#8217;s protected work</i>.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that there&#8217;s <i>no</i> innovation, just a restriction on one kind of innovation, the kind the originator obviously doesn&#8217;t want done to their work.  </p>
<p>That means the DRM is only there to enforce what the copyright laws already establish&#8211;assuming, as the doc points out, it isn&#8217;t just broken.  And since the doc seems to point out that DRM can be and is easily broken, I&#8217;m not sure how it is stifling anything.</p>
<p>Now, if the doc maintained that <i>copyright law was stifling innovation</i>, we might have an issue to debate&#8230;</p>
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