Comments on: Kindle now $259 with States-only wireless—and $279 in 100+ countries with U.S.-and-international wireless http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/ News & views on e-books, libraries, publishing and related topics Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:23:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: pando http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1147063 pando Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:12:57 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1147063 Amazon is <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015T963C?ie=UTF8&tag=fansto09-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0015T963C" rel="nofollow">pre-ordering the Kindle 2 International version for $279</a>. The <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00154JDAI?ie=UTF8&tag=fansto09-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00154JDAI" rel="nofollow">Kindle 2 US version is available new for $259</a> or <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00154JDAI?ie=UTF8&tag=fansto09-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00154JDAI" rel="nofollow">refurbished from $219</a>. Amazon is pre-ordering the Kindle 2 International version for $279. The Kindle 2 US version is available new for $259 or refurbished from $219.

]]> By: Paul Story http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146596 Paul Story Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:42:30 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146596 Hi Guys, I think a general misconception is growing around this $2 download charge. If I read things correctly, where there is whispernet coverage, there is no surcharge on buying books in the country that your account belongs to. These downloads are free (as distinct from the cost of the actual book). US buyers of the International version of the Kindle will use it as normal - except when they travel overseas to a country that has coverage. In that case, buying a book over the air will attract the $2 surcharge. It can always be avoided when overseas by downloading to a computer and transferring via usb. Some of the confusion is also linked to the separate issue of the charge users pay to transfer personal files over the air to their device. In the UK, for example, they will pay almost $1 per Mb. Again this seems to be to cover Amazon's costs and probably reflects the separate deals AT&T have made with their partners there. Hi Guys,

I think a general misconception is growing around this $2 download charge. If I read things correctly, where there is whispernet coverage, there is no surcharge on buying books in the country that your account belongs to. These downloads are free (as distinct from the cost of the actual book). US buyers of the International version of the Kindle will use it as normal – except when they travel overseas to a country that has coverage. In that case, buying a book over the air will attract the $2 surcharge. It can always be avoided when overseas by downloading to a computer and transferring via usb.

Some of the confusion is also linked to the separate issue of the charge users pay to transfer personal files over the air to their device. In the UK, for example, they will pay almost $1 per Mb. Again this seems to be to cover Amazon’s costs and probably reflects the separate deals AT&T have made with their partners there.

]]> By: Felix Torres http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146592 Felix Torres Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:20:55 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146592 For the record: once you have a kindle on account, you can buy/download books via the web on any PC much ad Mobipocket.com does. Then you can copy the boojs via USB so the wireless surcharge goes away. Presumably the surcharge is to pay the regional partners (and the travking accounting costs, too). Will be interesting to see how Sony and iRex handle wireless costs. I still think Amazon should do a WiFi kindle... Also: not at all amused at the $2 extra cost for books to Puerto Rico. Last I looked we were still part of the USA. :( Might be time to drum up a class action lawsuit there. For the record: once you have a kindle on account, you can buy/download books via the web on any PC much ad Mobipocket.com does. Then you can copy the boojs via USB so the wireless surcharge goes away.
Presumably the surcharge is to pay the regional partners (and the travking accounting costs, too).
Will be interesting to see how Sony and iRex handle wireless costs.
I still think Amazon should do a WiFi kindle…

Also: not at all amused at the $2 extra cost for books to Puerto Rico. Last I looked we were still part of the USA. :(

Might be time to drum up a class action lawsuit there.

]]> By: asphalt http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146588 asphalt Wed, 07 Oct 2009 16:02:28 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146588 i think that the $2 per download surcharge, if true, is a big mistake. i was under the (mistaken?) impression that the entire reason for providing 'storage to the cloud' was to help computer non-owners to *buy more titles* than just the 1500 or so that will fit on the device itself. and why would you pay two bucks to re-download something that was 'free' in the first place? very odd. maybe they should have just launched the device abroad at its original price of $359. i have no regrets that i bought early and paid that price. between february and now, i've gotten *way* more than $100 worth of use out of the thing. and -- i would eventually love the ability to internationalize my k2, if actually using the function wouldn't be so expensive that i'd never use it. i think that the $2 per download surcharge, if true, is a big mistake. i was under the (mistaken?) impression that the entire reason for providing ‘storage to the cloud’ was to help computer non-owners to *buy more titles* than just the 1500 or so that will fit on the device itself. and why would you pay two bucks to re-download something that was ‘free’ in the first place? very odd.

maybe they should have just launched the device abroad at its original price of $359. i have no regrets that i bought early and paid that price. between february and now, i’ve gotten *way* more than $100 worth of use out of the thing.

and — i would eventually love the ability to internationalize my k2, if actually using the function wouldn’t be so expensive that i’d never use it.

]]> By: Richard Askenase http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146583 Richard Askenase Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:38:48 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146583 Look, the Canada problem is NOT Amazon but the wireless companies. I assure you that Amazon wants to be in Canada!! Now, my British friends are going to be very excited (my wife is British so we go there frequently). I'm hoping that, at some time, I can internationalize my DX, preferably WITHOUT buying a new one. Look, the Canada problem is NOT Amazon but the wireless companies. I assure you that Amazon wants to be in Canada!!

Now, my British friends are going to be very excited (my wife is British so we go there frequently). I’m hoping that, at some time, I can internationalize my DX, preferably WITHOUT buying a new one.

]]> By: Paul Biba http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146578 Paul Biba Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:06:47 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146578 If you follow the mobile phone arena, which I do, you will find that Canadian telcos seem to be very difficult to deal with and often demand pricing that is much higher than in other markets. I offer the uninformed opinion that Amazon's major problem in Canada is cutting a deal with a Canadian telco. I suspect that they can't get one at a reasonable price. If you follow the mobile phone arena, which I do, you will find that Canadian telcos seem to be very difficult to deal with and often demand pricing that is much higher than in other markets.

I offer the uninformed opinion that Amazon’s major problem in Canada is cutting a deal with a Canadian telco. I suspect that they can’t get one at a reasonable price.

]]> By: Dave Robinson http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146577 Dave Robinson Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:37:03 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146577 No Canada - no sense. They even have a Canadian Amazon store, but no Kindle? Makes you wonder who is smoking what. No Canada – no sense.

They even have a Canadian Amazon store, but no Kindle?

Makes you wonder who is smoking what.

]]> By: devini http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146576 devini Wed, 07 Oct 2009 12:31:27 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146576 Unbelievable, here I was ready to buy an "international" Kindle -- breaking down my utter "dislike" for Amazon after they refused to give us a Mobipocket app for our iPhones-- when I discover the "new" ones are not available in Canada. You can buy one in Russia but you can't in Canada. Canada is on the same side of the fence as China. Amazon. You are impossible!!! Unbelievable, here I was ready to buy an “international” Kindle
– breaking down my utter “dislike” for Amazon after they refused
to give us a Mobipocket app for our iPhones–
when I discover the “new” ones are not available
in Canada. You can buy one in Russia but you can’t
in Canada. Canada is on the same side of
the fence as China. Amazon. You are impossible!!!

]]> By: GJN http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146575 GJN Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:40:02 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146575 Maybe now we'll finally get some international dictionaries. Maybe now we’ll finally get some international dictionaries.

]]> By: Martin http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146574 Martin Wed, 07 Oct 2009 10:41:25 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146574 The terms and conditions of the Amazon Digital Text platform haven't changed (yet?): 6. "You will not be permitted to register for the Program without providing a valid U.S. bank account number to receive EFT payments." 13. "Publisher represents and warrants that it is a corporation or other entity or a sole proprietorship or person domiciled in the United States." The terms and conditions of the Amazon Digital Text platform haven’t changed (yet?):

6. “You will not be permitted to register for the Program without providing a valid U.S. bank account number to receive EFT payments.”

13. “Publisher represents and warrants that it is a corporation or other entity or a sole proprietorship or person domiciled in the United States.”

]]> By: David Rothman http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146571 David Rothman Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:03:37 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146571 Thanks, Paul, and I hope that you and others in the UK and elsewhere outside the States will keep us posted on such issues as the local wireless and the availability of local content. Happy Kindling! And if you talk to talk support, don't forget to mention ePub, lol! David Thanks, Paul, and I hope that you and others in the UK and elsewhere outside the States will keep us posted on such issues as the local wireless and the availability of local content. Happy Kindling! And if you talk to talk support, don’t forget to mention ePub, lol!

David

]]> By: Blog Kindle http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146570 Blog Kindle Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:34:41 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146570 I've put together a table that lists every country in which Kindle is available along with number of books, their pricing, wireless availability etc at http://blogkindle.com/2009/10/international-release-of-kindle-2/ I’ve put together a table that lists every country in which Kindle is available along with number of books, their pricing, wireless availability etc at http://blogkindle.com/2009/10/international-release-of-kindle-2/

]]> By: Paul Durrant http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/comment-page-1/#comment-1146569 Paul Durrant Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:31:50 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/10/07/kindle-now-259-with-states-only-wireless-and-sold-for-279-in-100-countries-with-u-s-and-international-wireless/#comment-1146569 I've pre-ordered one. Including shipping and estimated Customs and VAT, that's $387 or around £245. They are obviously restricting international book purchases to ones which they have international rights for, which is right and proper. I just wish they'd now open up the Kinde ebook store to non-US publishers. I’ve pre-ordered one. Including shipping and estimated Customs and VAT, that’s $387 or around £245.

They are obviously restricting international book purchases to ones which they have international rights for, which is right and proper. I just wish they’d now open up the Kinde ebook store to non-US publishers.

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