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	<title>Comments on: The book price hullabaloo: Mark Coker&#8217;s HuffPo post vs. Michael Cairns&#8217; observations</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Preece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Preece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been selling books at the $4 price point for years ($3.99 in most cases, with $1.00 for the initial month of availability). I do think there is some price elasticity for books. I&#039;m not sure how much there is for best-sellers, though. When Harry Potter books were coming out, did people spend a lot of time thinking about whether they needed to be a few bucks cheaper? 

My model is affordable electronic fiction. But I don&#039;t think everyone has to match the BooksForABuck.com model in order for eBooks to continue to gain share in the marketplace.

Rob Preece
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been selling books at the $4 price point for years ($3.99 in most cases, with $1.00 for the initial month of availability). I do think there is some price elasticity for books. I&#8217;m not sure how much there is for best-sellers, though. When Harry Potter books were coming out, did people spend a lot of time thinking about whether they needed to be a few bucks cheaper? </p>
<p>My model is affordable electronic fiction. But I don&#8217;t think everyone has to match the BooksForABuck.com model in order for eBooks to continue to gain share in the marketplace.</p>
<p>Rob Preece<br />
Publisher</p>
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		<title>By: Marilynn Byerly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilynn Byerly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The RealBillC says ::It’s true, I don’t understand the publishing business. If distribution is eating up 66% of the cost of a paper book, than surely ebooks (with their potentially low distribution costs) should be cheaper than pbooks. Whatever math the publishing industry is using, it’s not what I learned in school::

That 50-66% quote is about ebooks, not paper books.

Does it make any sense that publishers would agree to sharing 66% of their profit just to have their book on the Kindle?  

Personally, I don&#039;t think so.  The Kindle wouldn&#039;t exist if it didn&#039;t have high-quality books from the major publishers.  The publishers had the power to say &quot;H*ll no,&quot; and they didn&#039;t because they couldn&#039;t get it into their heads that publishing was changing and ebooks were a growing market with major potential.  They also hadn&#039;t paid enough attention to the costs involved for  the distributors to see that they were being robbed.

These publishers trapped themselves and the small indies into this financial trap, and I doubt this will change.

For a look at how well, ebooks are doing recently, this blog by literary agent Kristin Nelson talking about the last quarter&#039;s royalties from her authors is worth a read.

http://pubrants.blogspot.com/2009/10/tectonic-shift.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The RealBillC says ::It’s true, I don’t understand the publishing business. If distribution is eating up 66% of the cost of a paper book, than surely ebooks (with their potentially low distribution costs) should be cheaper than pbooks. Whatever math the publishing industry is using, it’s not what I learned in school::</p>
<p>That 50-66% quote is about ebooks, not paper books.</p>
<p>Does it make any sense that publishers would agree to sharing 66% of their profit just to have their book on the Kindle?  </p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t think so.  The Kindle wouldn&#8217;t exist if it didn&#8217;t have high-quality books from the major publishers.  The publishers had the power to say &#8220;H*ll no,&#8221; and they didn&#8217;t because they couldn&#8217;t get it into their heads that publishing was changing and ebooks were a growing market with major potential.  They also hadn&#8217;t paid enough attention to the costs involved for  the distributors to see that they were being robbed.</p>
<p>These publishers trapped themselves and the small indies into this financial trap, and I doubt this will change.</p>
<p>For a look at how well, ebooks are doing recently, this blog by literary agent Kristin Nelson talking about the last quarter&#8217;s royalties from her authors is worth a read.</p>
<p><a href="http://pubrants.blogspot.com/2009/10/tectonic-shift.html" rel="nofollow">http://pubrants.blogspot.com/2009/10/tectonic-shift.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: TheRealBillC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheRealBillC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true, I don&#039;t understand the publishing business. If distribution is eating up 66% of the cost of a paper book, than surely ebooks (with their potentially low distribution costs) should be cheaper than pbooks. Whatever math the publishing industry is using, it&#039;s not what I learned in school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true, I don&#8217;t understand the publishing business. If distribution is eating up 66% of the cost of a paper book, than surely ebooks (with their potentially low distribution costs) should be cheaper than pbooks. Whatever math the publishing industry is using, it&#8217;s not what I learned in school.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilynn Byerly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilynn Byerly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The average mark up for a piece of furniture is 1000% of its manufacturing cost.  The average mark up for a book is much, much lower.  I don’t have those figures, but most publishers say they have a 3-5% profit margin.

Meanwhile, the distributors take a vast majority of the profit.  In ebook distribution, the average cut for a distributor is between 50-66% of the book’s price.  That means that the publisher can’t price a book too cheaply if it wants to sell ebooks in the venues where a vast majority of people buy books.  The distributor won’t make enough profit so they won’t be interested, and the publisher will go bankrupt.

In comparison to other product creators, publishing has always been crippled because of the cheap price of books.   Until the middle to late 20th Century, a book wasn’t considered a manufactured good; it was a precious piece of culture that must be priced cheaply so anyone could buy it.  The publishers were rich, cultured folks like the Simons who published books they believed needed publishing, and they weren’t in it for the all mighty buck or for stockholders.

When the conglomerates took over publishing, they didn’t care about the books, they cared about the profit, but they were trapped by the expectations of buyers who expected low-priced books.  

The conglomerates began to cut the cost of creation by lower the cost of authors-- authors now make smaller royalties and advances than they ever have-- and by cutting the cost of editing by paying editors less and making them do more and more.  

Meanwhile, the distributors and the book chains and stores have faded away until only a few now control the flow of paper books to consumers so they control much of the profit, and Amazon has the ebook publishers in their grip with their control of both the price of the book, its look, and a large percent of its profits, and the other big distributors are beginning to follow their lead to the detriment of publishing’s financial health and existence.

And you all whine about wanting a $4 book and think it&#039;s all the publishers and authors’ faults that you can’t get one?  Obviously, you really don’t understand the publishing business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average mark up for a piece of furniture is 1000% of its manufacturing cost.  The average mark up for a book is much, much lower.  I don’t have those figures, but most publishers say they have a 3-5% profit margin.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the distributors take a vast majority of the profit.  In ebook distribution, the average cut for a distributor is between 50-66% of the book’s price.  That means that the publisher can’t price a book too cheaply if it wants to sell ebooks in the venues where a vast majority of people buy books.  The distributor won’t make enough profit so they won’t be interested, and the publisher will go bankrupt.</p>
<p>In comparison to other product creators, publishing has always been crippled because of the cheap price of books.   Until the middle to late 20th Century, a book wasn’t considered a manufactured good; it was a precious piece of culture that must be priced cheaply so anyone could buy it.  The publishers were rich, cultured folks like the Simons who published books they believed needed publishing, and they weren’t in it for the all mighty buck or for stockholders.</p>
<p>When the conglomerates took over publishing, they didn’t care about the books, they cared about the profit, but they were trapped by the expectations of buyers who expected low-priced books.  </p>
<p>The conglomerates began to cut the cost of creation by lower the cost of authors&#8211; authors now make smaller royalties and advances than they ever have&#8211; and by cutting the cost of editing by paying editors less and making them do more and more.  </p>
<p>Meanwhile, the distributors and the book chains and stores have faded away until only a few now control the flow of paper books to consumers so they control much of the profit, and Amazon has the ebook publishers in their grip with their control of both the price of the book, its look, and a large percent of its profits, and the other big distributors are beginning to follow their lead to the detriment of publishing’s financial health and existence.</p>
<p>And you all whine about wanting a $4 book and think it&#8217;s all the publishers and authors’ faults that you can’t get one?  Obviously, you really don’t understand the publishing business.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill McHale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McHale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With respect to Ms. Burton and TheRealBillC, how much effort goes into 
producing an ebook and how much the public believes the publisher&#039;s 
protests is all besides the point.  Ultimately what matters is whether 
the ebooks authors and publishers produce are able to attract customers 
at the prices that the publishers are willing to charge.  

I am not sure whether $4 novels are necessary to attract an ebook 
audience or not.  What I do know is that whether the book costs $4 or 
$10, the consumer better believe they are getting value for their money.  
I suspect that other than immediately after the release of a novel, $4 
is closer to the right price than $10.  Publishers have to get their 
costs down to a point where they can sell ebooks cheaply and still make 
a profit.  If they don&#039;t, then I suspect that more and more authors will 
have to self publish if we want the novel to remain a viable medium in 
the 21st century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect to Ms. Burton and TheRealBillC, how much effort goes into<br />
producing an ebook and how much the public believes the publisher&#8217;s<br />
protests is all besides the point.  Ultimately what matters is whether<br />
the ebooks authors and publishers produce are able to attract customers<br />
at the prices that the publishers are willing to charge.  </p>
<p>I am not sure whether $4 novels are necessary to attract an ebook<br />
audience or not.  What I do know is that whether the book costs $4 or<br />
$10, the consumer better believe they are getting value for their money.<br />
I suspect that other than immediately after the release of a novel, $4<br />
is closer to the right price than $10.  Publishers have to get their<br />
costs down to a point where they can sell ebooks cheaply and still make<br />
a profit.  If they don&#8217;t, then I suspect that more and more authors will<br />
have to self publish if we want the novel to remain a viable medium in<br />
the 21st century.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Janssen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Janssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting debate.  I think Coker&#039;s got a point; should I &quot;rent&quot; a $12 ebook version of some mass market novel, or rent a $4 movie?  Let&#039;s not kid ourselves you can &quot;buy&quot; a book on the Kindle...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting debate.  I think Coker&#8217;s got a point; should I &#8220;rent&#8221; a $12 ebook version of some mass market novel, or rent a $4 movie?  Let&#8217;s not kid ourselves you can &#8220;buy&#8221; a book on the Kindle&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As noted, I think price should depend on the book, but my novel The Solomon Scandals comes sort of close to $4, with a $5.95 list price in E. When on sale, it probably will reach $4. And that&#039;s fine with me.

No, this isn&#039;t an abstraction! First-hand, I&#039;m aware of the issues here. I&#039;m delighted that my publisher, Twilight Times Books, has been so sensible on the price issue.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As noted, I think price should depend on the book, but my novel The Solomon Scandals comes sort of close to $4, with a $5.95 list price in E. When on sale, it probably will reach $4. And that&#8217;s fine with me.</p>
<p>No, this isn&#8217;t an abstraction! First-hand, I&#8217;m aware of the issues here. I&#8217;m delighted that my publisher, Twilight Times Books, has been so sensible on the price issue.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pastore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Pastore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The choice of the selling price for the ebook should be made by the ebook&#039;s author. And I think that it would be wise for authors to follow Mark Coker&#039;s suggestion: price your ebooks as low as possible. This may increase the number sales, and it may discourage piracy. It will certainly warm the hearts of your readers and prospective readers.

I was thinking that $ 2.00 to $ 5.00 (USD) would be a good price range, depending on the size of the book and the complexity of the production work flow, as described by Elizabeth Burton in a comment below.

Some people people can&#039;t believe that a 2-dollar or 4-dollar ebook can be well written, carefully edited and professionally produced. There are people who judge the quality of anything, and everything, by the price: the higher the price, the better the product. 

Now is the perfect time for ebook authors and publishers to dispel this foolish myth.

Michael Pastore
50 Benefits of Ebooks
Price: $ 2.00</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The choice of the selling price for the ebook should be made by the ebook&#8217;s author. And I think that it would be wise for authors to follow Mark Coker&#8217;s suggestion: price your ebooks as low as possible. This may increase the number sales, and it may discourage piracy. It will certainly warm the hearts of your readers and prospective readers.</p>
<p>I was thinking that $ 2.00 to $ 5.00 (USD) would be a good price range, depending on the size of the book and the complexity of the production work flow, as described by Elizabeth Burton in a comment below.</p>
<p>Some people people can&#8217;t believe that a 2-dollar or 4-dollar ebook can be well written, carefully edited and professionally produced. There are people who judge the quality of anything, and everything, by the price: the higher the price, the better the product. </p>
<p>Now is the perfect time for ebook authors and publishers to dispel this foolish myth.</p>
<p>Michael Pastore<br />
50 Benefits of Ebooks<br />
Price: $ 2.00</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill M is right... though the Mercedes analogy would have worked if other carmakers were selling $800 cars.  
The situation created by digital files is akin to automakers selling $20,000 cars suddenly being in competition with small companies selling $1000 cars that did exactly the same job as the expensive cars, but without the burled walnut finishes and Corinthian leather.  Even Mercedes would figure out that they&#039;d have to lower their prices to compete (no leather and wood interior is worth another $18,000)... or learn to ditch the &quot;luxury&quot; trappings and start selling $1000 cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill M is right&#8230; though the Mercedes analogy would have worked if other carmakers were selling $800 cars.<br />
The situation created by digital files is akin to automakers selling $20,000 cars suddenly being in competition with small companies selling $1000 cars that did exactly the same job as the expensive cars, but without the burled walnut finishes and Corinthian leather.  Even Mercedes would figure out that they&#8217;d have to lower their prices to compete (no leather and wood interior is worth another $18,000)&#8230; or learn to ditch the &#8220;luxury&#8221; trappings and start selling $1000 cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People have too many hangups about prices.  I&#039;ll be paying more then $10 for lunch today at the Mongolian Grill, so any book that costs less is probably not horribly overpriced.  Hell, a good beer in a restaurant would cost at least $5, so is an ebook worth less then two beers?  I guess many people think so.

More important than cheap pricing, books need to be interesting enough to buy.  While a lot of major publishing is junk, at least in my opinion, there are still book I want to buy and read. But  so far I haven&#039;t purchased from the small publishers like Smashwords because I haven&#039;t seen any title that capture my interest.  Sure, there are probably good books independently published (I do plan to buy and read a Steve Jordan science fiction novel someday when the book queue is a bit shorter) but in competition with known authors  or even the free classics, the indie titles are a low priority even if they cost less.

So it comes down to I&#039;d more likely pay $9.99 for the new Greg Bear novel than $4.00 from an unknown  author.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have too many hangups about prices.  I&#8217;ll be paying more then $10 for lunch today at the Mongolian Grill, so any book that costs less is probably not horribly overpriced.  Hell, a good beer in a restaurant would cost at least $5, so is an ebook worth less then two beers?  I guess many people think so.</p>
<p>More important than cheap pricing, books need to be interesting enough to buy.  While a lot of major publishing is junk, at least in my opinion, there are still book I want to buy and read. But  so far I haven&#8217;t purchased from the small publishers like Smashwords because I haven&#8217;t seen any title that capture my interest.  Sure, there are probably good books independently published (I do plan to buy and read a Steve Jordan science fiction novel someday when the book queue is a bit shorter) but in competition with known authors  or even the free classics, the indie titles are a low priority even if they cost less.</p>
<p>So it comes down to I&#8217;d more likely pay $9.99 for the new Greg Bear novel than $4.00 from an unknown  author.</p>
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		<title>By: TheRealBillC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheRealBillC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why the issue of ebook price is never going to be resolved.&quot; and, &quot;They have no idea how many hours go into editing, copyediting, proofing, correcting, revising and, finally, formatting. Not to mention cover art, meta data creation, copywriting descriptions and cover copy.&quot;.  Blah, Blah, Blah, and so forth. Bottom line - we (the readers) don&#039;t care. We simply do not believe that publishers are telling us the truth, and we know many of these &quot;costs&quot; are part of producing the paper copy, so at best, only a portion of the cost should be distributed to the cost of the e-copy. We also heard a lot of the same arguments from the music industry, predicting the end of life as we know it if music was sold by the song for 99 cents, and if they couldn&#039;t continue to gouge us on album prices - and we all know how that turned out. I believe the issue of ebook pricing will be resolved, either the publishing industry comes up with a fair price for ebooks, or they will not be around any more. And by the way, have you read a hard cover book lately? If they are paying for proofing they are getting robbed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why the issue of ebook price is never going to be resolved.&#8221; and, &#8220;They have no idea how many hours go into editing, copyediting, proofing, correcting, revising and, finally, formatting. Not to mention cover art, meta data creation, copywriting descriptions and cover copy.&#8221;.  Blah, Blah, Blah, and so forth. Bottom line &#8211; we (the readers) don&#8217;t care. We simply do not believe that publishers are telling us the truth, and we know many of these &#8220;costs&#8221; are part of producing the paper copy, so at best, only a portion of the cost should be distributed to the cost of the e-copy. We also heard a lot of the same arguments from the music industry, predicting the end of life as we know it if music was sold by the song for 99 cents, and if they couldn&#8217;t continue to gouge us on album prices &#8211; and we all know how that turned out. I believe the issue of ebook pricing will be resolved, either the publishing industry comes up with a fair price for ebooks, or they will not be around any more. And by the way, have you read a hard cover book lately? If they are paying for proofing they are getting robbed!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill McHale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McHale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mercedes analogy is an interesting, but ultimately flawed one.  Yes, 
very few people tell Mercedes that they should sell $1000 cars, but the 
fact of the matter is, that the vast majority of car buyers will never 
own a Mercedes, at least not a new one.  They are cars that are bought, 
in large part for their prestige value -- yes, some might buy a Mercedes 
for its safety features, but for the most part, there is little that the 
average driver is going to do in a Mercedes that a Ford of comperable 
size can&#039;t too for significantly less money.  And here is the thing, 
books are generally not prestige items, and most books (except text 
books, technical manuals, reference books and the like) are not in any 
way shape or form necessary purchases.  Most people buy books to pass 
the time.  In many cases books are impulse purchases; at least they are 
when he price is low enough.  

Likewise, lets remember something; in books, the brand is not the 
publisher the author is (There are some exceptions, but those will 
remain exceptions and not change this basic paradigm).  If we surveyed 
people about who wrote The Da Vinci Code or the Harry Potter Series, I 
suspect, that vast majority of people would give you the correct answer 
(even if they never had read the books); ask them who published those 
books and I suspect the majority would not know the answer.  If an 
author switches publishers, the readers will follow.  Therefore, there 
is little real advantage in the publisher &quot;improving&quot; their product.  
Particularly if such enhancements will significantly increase the cost 
of the product.     

Is there a way to get around this basic fact?  I doubt it.  Media, 
unlike other products, has proven rather resistent to building brand 
identities that stretch across more than a narrow range of products (For 
example, Star Trek, Star Wars, CSI and Law and Order).  People are not 
going to be more inclined to buy a book because Putnam published it, or 
watch a TV show simply because it is on NBC.

Now lets go back to the price issue for the moment.  A DSL connection 
costs $20 a month, Cable TV maybe about $70 a month.  Both will provide 
essentially unlimited distraction during that period for those who want 
to spend their time using the internet or watching TV.  Books have to 
compete against that.  Lets say the average dedicated reader can read 2 
books a week.  Thats going to essentially boil down to 9 books a month.  
Even at Amazon&#039;s $10 a book, that makes books one of the more expensive 
entertainment propositions.

So why do we need cheaper ebooks?  Because so many other forms of 
entertainment are cheaper as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mercedes analogy is an interesting, but ultimately flawed one.  Yes,<br />
very few people tell Mercedes that they should sell $1000 cars, but the<br />
fact of the matter is, that the vast majority of car buyers will never<br />
own a Mercedes, at least not a new one.  They are cars that are bought,<br />
in large part for their prestige value &#8212; yes, some might buy a Mercedes<br />
for its safety features, but for the most part, there is little that the<br />
average driver is going to do in a Mercedes that a Ford of comperable<br />
size can&#8217;t too for significantly less money.  And here is the thing,<br />
books are generally not prestige items, and most books (except text<br />
books, technical manuals, reference books and the like) are not in any<br />
way shape or form necessary purchases.  Most people buy books to pass<br />
the time.  In many cases books are impulse purchases; at least they are<br />
when he price is low enough.  </p>
<p>Likewise, lets remember something; in books, the brand is not the<br />
publisher the author is (There are some exceptions, but those will<br />
remain exceptions and not change this basic paradigm).  If we surveyed<br />
people about who wrote The Da Vinci Code or the Harry Potter Series, I<br />
suspect, that vast majority of people would give you the correct answer<br />
(even if they never had read the books); ask them who published those<br />
books and I suspect the majority would not know the answer.  If an<br />
author switches publishers, the readers will follow.  Therefore, there<br />
is little real advantage in the publisher &#8220;improving&#8221; their product.<br />
Particularly if such enhancements will significantly increase the cost<br />
of the product.     </p>
<p>Is there a way to get around this basic fact?  I doubt it.  Media,<br />
unlike other products, has proven rather resistent to building brand<br />
identities that stretch across more than a narrow range of products (For<br />
example, Star Trek, Star Wars, CSI and Law and Order).  People are not<br />
going to be more inclined to buy a book because Putnam published it, or<br />
watch a TV show simply because it is on NBC.</p>
<p>Now lets go back to the price issue for the moment.  A DSL connection<br />
costs $20 a month, Cable TV maybe about $70 a month.  Both will provide<br />
essentially unlimited distraction during that period for those who want<br />
to spend their time using the internet or watching TV.  Books have to<br />
compete against that.  Lets say the average dedicated reader can read 2<br />
books a week.  Thats going to essentially boil down to 9 books a month.<br />
Even at Amazon&#8217;s $10 a book, that makes books one of the more expensive<br />
entertainment propositions.</p>
<p>So why do we need cheaper ebooks?  Because so many other forms of<br />
entertainment are cheaper as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Burton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To my knowledge, not even those companies only publishing ebooks work with plain text as their basic file format. So, to provide text as a low-cost alternative to more polished versions actually requires additional work on the part of the publisher.

Why? Because it&#039;s not as simple as saving to plain text, especially with regard to fiction. Readability is still a factor, which means italics have to be replaced where they&#039;re needed. There are issues of spacing as well, and removing formatting elements that don&#039;t convert but don&#039;t convert, either. It takes me about 20-30 minutes to render my working file to plain text so I can send it to the Library of Congress.

The basic problem with discussions of ebook pricing is that those who do most of the complaining about price see only the finished product. And they say to themselves &quot;I can do this in ten minutes.&quot; They&#039;re probably right, but to assume every reader has that same ability--or even the desire--to set up the book reveals why the issue of ebook price is never going to be resolved.

What&#039;s more, most if not all of those who complain about the price have never taken a writer&#039;s manuscript from draft to final galley. They have no idea how many hours go into editing, copyediting, proofing, correcting, revising and, finally, formatting. Not to mention cover art, meta data creation, copywriting descriptions and cover copy.

I don&#039;t agree with the mainstream publishers that ebooks should be priced at or near the price of the print version. However, to continue to insist that ebooks should be cheap because they &quot;don&#039;t cost anything to produce&quot; reveals an ignorance of the mechanics of publishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my knowledge, not even those companies only publishing ebooks work with plain text as their basic file format. So, to provide text as a low-cost alternative to more polished versions actually requires additional work on the part of the publisher.</p>
<p>Why? Because it&#8217;s not as simple as saving to plain text, especially with regard to fiction. Readability is still a factor, which means italics have to be replaced where they&#8217;re needed. There are issues of spacing as well, and removing formatting elements that don&#8217;t convert but don&#8217;t convert, either. It takes me about 20-30 minutes to render my working file to plain text so I can send it to the Library of Congress.</p>
<p>The basic problem with discussions of ebook pricing is that those who do most of the complaining about price see only the finished product. And they say to themselves &#8220;I can do this in ten minutes.&#8221; They&#8217;re probably right, but to assume every reader has that same ability&#8211;or even the desire&#8211;to set up the book reveals why the issue of ebook price is never going to be resolved.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, most if not all of those who complain about the price have never taken a writer&#8217;s manuscript from draft to final galley. They have no idea how many hours go into editing, copyediting, proofing, correcting, revising and, finally, formatting. Not to mention cover art, meta data creation, copywriting descriptions and cover copy.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with the mainstream publishers that ebooks should be priced at or near the price of the print version. However, to continue to insist that ebooks should be cheap because they &#8220;don&#8217;t cost anything to produce&#8221; reveals an ignorance of the mechanics of publishing.</p>
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