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	<title>Comments on: E-reading still neglected by the OLPC laptop folks? Yep&#8212;at least for now. But the future may be brighter.</title>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gautam and James:

G: For picture books, when no other alternatives exist, then PDFs would make sense. But as an OLPC laptop owner at the time, I found that PDFs were sheer torture on a small screen. Re commercial content. that is a Good Thing, and via licensing agreements with libraries or otherwise, it could be made available. Small children are the laptop&#039;s main users. But let&#039;s not neglect others.

J: It would be great if OLPC were better at letting the world know that the Reader can now do ePub. Needless to say, I was delighted to be able to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teleread.com/2009/09/25/epub-for-the-olpc-laptop-read-activity-now-does-it-hooray/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;do a follow-up&lt;/a&gt; calling attention to the new capability.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gautam and James:</p>
<p>G: For picture books, when no other alternatives exist, then PDFs would make sense. But as an OLPC laptop owner at the time, I found that PDFs were sheer torture on a small screen. Re commercial content. that is a Good Thing, and via licensing agreements with libraries or otherwise, it could be made available. Small children are the laptop&#8217;s main users. But let&#8217;s not neglect others.</p>
<p>J: It would be great if OLPC were better at letting the world know that the Reader can now do ePub. Needless to say, I was delighted to be able to <a href="http://www.teleread.com/2009/09/25/epub-for-the-olpc-laptop-read-activity-now-does-it-hooray/" rel="nofollow">do a follow-up</a> calling attention to the new capability.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: James Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to add to what Sean has said.  The latest Read supports PDF, epub, and Djvu.  There are over a million free books in these formats at the Internet Archive.  Read Etexts supports plain text files, plus RTF, which gives you the 24,000 books at Project Gutenberg and another 4,000 at Project Gutenberg Australia, plus the Baen Free Library of recent science fiction books and more.  Read Etexts can also do text to speech with word highlighting.  It can also browse the Project Gutenberg offline catalogs to make it really easy to find and download books without visiting the website.

View Slides can read comic books in the .cbz format.

Get Internet Archive Books is a friendly interface to the Internet Archive book catalog, which makes it really easy to browse and download free books from there without visiting that website.

I use Read Etexts every day at work to read books on my XO.  Some of the books I&#039;ve read recently include &quot;Odd John&quot; by Olaf Stapledon, &quot;Little Brother&quot; by Cory Doctorow, &quot;A Thousand Nights and a Night&quot; translated by Richard Burton, &quot;The Creatures of Man&quot; by Howard L. Myers and &quot;The Two Faces of Tommorow&quot; by James P. Hogan.  All these books were free.

There is more work to be done to make Sugar a first rate reading platform, but we&#039;ve made a lot more progress than your article gives us credit for.

James Simmons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to add to what Sean has said.  The latest Read supports PDF, epub, and Djvu.  There are over a million free books in these formats at the Internet Archive.  Read Etexts supports plain text files, plus RTF, which gives you the 24,000 books at Project Gutenberg and another 4,000 at Project Gutenberg Australia, plus the Baen Free Library of recent science fiction books and more.  Read Etexts can also do text to speech with word highlighting.  It can also browse the Project Gutenberg offline catalogs to make it really easy to find and download books without visiting the website.</p>
<p>View Slides can read comic books in the .cbz format.</p>
<p>Get Internet Archive Books is a friendly interface to the Internet Archive book catalog, which makes it really easy to browse and download free books from there without visiting that website.</p>
<p>I use Read Etexts every day at work to read books on my XO.  Some of the books I&#8217;ve read recently include &#8220;Odd John&#8221; by Olaf Stapledon, &#8220;Little Brother&#8221; by Cory Doctorow, &#8220;A Thousand Nights and a Night&#8221; translated by Richard Burton, &#8220;The Creatures of Man&#8221; by Howard L. Myers and &#8220;The Two Faces of Tommorow&#8221; by James P. Hogan.  All these books were free.</p>
<p>There is more work to be done to make Sugar a first rate reading platform, but we&#8217;ve made a lot more progress than your article gives us credit for.</p>
<p>James Simmons</p>
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		<title>By: Gautam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gautam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, could someone please explain why a PDF wouldn&#039;t suffice for an eBook? We sent some of our CC licensed books to the Nepal OLPC project and they seem happy with the outcomes. 

http://blog.prathambooks.org/2009/07/pratham-books-reaches-nepal-through.html

We&#039;d like to do more and would be interested in hearing the alternatives. 

Also, giving away content to the OLPC projects is difficult!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, could someone please explain why a PDF wouldn&#8217;t suffice for an eBook? We sent some of our CC licensed books to the Nepal OLPC project and they seem happy with the outcomes. </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.prathambooks.org/2009/07/pratham-books-reaches-nepal-through.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.prathambooks.org/2009/07/pratham-books-reaches-nepal-through.html</a></p>
<p>We&#8217;d like to do more and would be interested in hearing the alternatives. </p>
<p>Also, giving away content to the OLPC projects is difficult!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,

You asked about ePub. The latest version of the Read activity (by Sayamindu Dasgupta) for Sugar 0.86 supports the ePub format, though I believe some support of ePub was in earlier Read releases. Here&#039;s a link to latest release notes (just in the middle of this new Sugar release so apologies that notes are still being updated):

    http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Read

Regards,
--Gary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>You asked about ePub. The latest version of the Read activity (by Sayamindu Dasgupta) for Sugar 0.86 supports the ePub format, though I believe some support of ePub was in earlier Read releases. Here&#8217;s a link to latest release notes (just in the middle of this new Sugar release so apologies that notes are still being updated):</p>
<p>    <a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Read" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.86/Read</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
&#8211;Gary</p>
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		<title>By: Gautam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gautam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we sent some of our books to the Nepal OLPC project as PDF and not sure how they are using them but from what we hear, it&#039;s worked just fine. I don&#039;t know the technical details but would be interested to know why a specialised book reader, rather than a plain PDF one, would work better? 

Some background on these books here: http://blog.prathambooks.org/2009/07/pratham-books-reaches-nepal-through.html

Also, it&#039;s hard work trying to give our content away!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we sent some of our books to the Nepal OLPC project as PDF and not sure how they are using them but from what we hear, it&#8217;s worked just fine. I don&#8217;t know the technical details but would be interested to know why a specialised book reader, rather than a plain PDF one, would work better? </p>
<p>Some background on these books here: <a href="http://blog.prathambooks.org/2009/07/pratham-books-reaches-nepal-through.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.prathambooks.org/2009/07/pratham-books-reaches-nepal-through.html</a></p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s hard work trying to give our content away!</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big thanks for the update, Sean. May it be useful t the XO owners out there! So can any of these do ePub? And why isn&#039;t the OLPC site playing up this software, even if the development is from outside the organization?

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big thanks for the update, Sean. May it be useful t the XO owners out there! So can any of these do ePub? And why isn&#8217;t the OLPC site playing up this software, even if the development is from outside the organization?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Sean DALY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean DALY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please be aware that the Sugar Learning Platform and Activities for children have not been developed by OLPC since April 2008, when the Sugar Labs foundation was created by Walter Bender. Any discussion of e-reader software for the OLPC XO-1 or XO-1.5 should include the different readers available from the Sugar Activities Library (http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar).   We are excited about the Read Etexts and Get Internet Archive Books Activities (both by James Simmons), the updated Read Activity, and the recently added Gcompris Activities. The sugar-devel list is a good place to find out the status of Activities, see for example: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-June/015859.html. Note that you don&#039;t need an XO laptop to test these Activities; Sugar on a Stick (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Strawberry) will boot just about any PC and many Macs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please be aware that the Sugar Learning Platform and Activities for children have not been developed by OLPC since April 2008, when the Sugar Labs foundation was created by Walter Bender. Any discussion of e-reader software for the OLPC XO-1 or XO-1.5 should include the different readers available from the Sugar Activities Library (<a href="http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar" rel="nofollow">http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar</a>).   We are excited about the Read Etexts and Get Internet Archive Books Activities (both by James Simmons), the updated Read Activity, and the recently added Gcompris Activities. The sugar-devel list is a good place to find out the status of Activities, see for example: <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-June/015859.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2009-June/015859.html</a>. Note that you don&#8217;t need an XO laptop to test these Activities; Sugar on a Stick (<a href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Strawberry" rel="nofollow">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Strawberry</a>) will boot just about any PC and many Macs.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering it was &quot;hackers&quot; and private developers who created the first e-book readers for other platforms, it might have been expected that those same software pioneers would create readers for the OLPC.

Unfortunately, as the device is targeted at children, I suppose the pioneers weren&#039;t interested in bothering with something they themselves would likely not use.

This doesn&#039;t mean it won&#039;t happen.  But before it does, the product will need to make a significant market impact, so the big players will consider the possibilities that the pioneers ignored.  After all, hooking kids on a product or service can result in lifetime customers... ask Disney...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering it was &#8220;hackers&#8221; and private developers who created the first e-book readers for other platforms, it might have been expected that those same software pioneers would create readers for the OLPC.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, as the device is targeted at children, I suppose the pioneers weren&#8217;t interested in bothering with something they themselves would likely not use.</p>
<p>This doesn&#8217;t mean it won&#8217;t happen.  But before it does, the product will need to make a significant market impact, so the big players will consider the possibilities that the pioneers ignored.  After all, hooking kids on a product or service can result in lifetime customers&#8230; ask Disney&#8230;</p>
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