Comments on: Firefox is a turkey—I’m rolling back to version 2.0 out of desperation and may switch to Chrome or Safari http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/ News & views on e-books, libraries, publishing and related topics Wed, 15 Feb 2012 20:23:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: David Rothman http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1129759 David Rothman Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:08:00 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1129759 Thanks for sharing your tips, Gabriel. I'd encourage Firefox stalwart to try 'em and share their experiences. Of course, I'd rather not bother with cache-clearing, etc. But people should use what THEY like! It's really great to see you helping out fellow FF fans. Feel free to drop by here with further tips! David Thanks for sharing your tips, Gabriel. I’d encourage Firefox stalwart to try ‘em and share their experiences.

Of course, I’d rather not bother with cache-clearing, etc. But people should use what THEY like! It’s really great to see you helping out fellow FF fans. Feel free to drop by here with further tips!

David

]]> By: Gabriel http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1129714 Gabriel Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:11:37 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1129714 Edit: I also removed lots of history data (ctrl-shift-h). Going back as far as April. Edit: I also removed lots of history data (ctrl-shift-h). Going back as far as April.

]]> By: Gabriel http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1129709 Gabriel Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:05:30 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1129709 I had many of these issues, general slowness, lagging when typing in the url bar, forever opening and closing. I ended up flushing the majority of my history after coming across this link; http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2009/08/15/firefox-3-5-slow-and-hangs-after-typing-a-few-letters-in-url-location-bar/ I trimmed my history to 15 days since I do use it and don't want it flushed on every exit. Made a world of difference for me. I had many of these issues, general slowness, lagging when typing in the url bar, forever opening and closing. I ended up flushing the majority of my history after coming across this link;

http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2009/08/15/firefox-3-5-slow-and-hangs-after-typing-a-few-letters-in-url-location-bar/

I trimmed my history to 15 days since I do use it and don’t want it flushed on every exit. Made a world of difference for me.

]]> By: David Rothman http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1129052 David Rothman Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:38:43 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1129052 Hey, Deanna, go with what works for <em>you</em>. It's just that more than a few people seem to have problems with Firefox. I hope you don't. But if you do, at least we're blazing the way by investigating the most up-to-date versions of alternatives. Thanks, David Hey, Deanna, go with what works for you. It’s just that more than a few people seem to have problems with Firefox. I hope you don’t. But if you do, at least we’re blazing the way by investigating the most up-to-date versions of alternatives.

Thanks,
David

]]> By: Deanna http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1129028 Deanna Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:05:35 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1129028 Geez, I'm slightly stunned by this. I had a few problems w/FF 3.5 in late beta on Fedora, but 3.5.2 on Vista is fine. I don't think I could give up the extensions. I do plan on trying Chrome when I get my new Viliv X70, but w/o CoolPreviews and Scrapbook will probably go back to FF. Geez, I’m slightly stunned by this. I had a few problems w/FF 3.5 in late beta on Fedora, but 3.5.2 on Vista is fine. I don’t think I could give up the extensions.

I do plan on trying Chrome when I get my new Viliv X70, but w/o CoolPreviews and Scrapbook will probably go back to FF.

]]> By: Rimon http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128988 Rimon Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:14:17 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128988 If you're considering Chrome, I'd agree with Joseph and say you should also try Opera, which is much more mature. It's my main browser. Three things I like about it more than Firefox (which I use as backup): much more configurable appearance and key mappings; smoother zooming (I've keys set to zoom in 1, 5, 10, and 100% jumps) plus fit-to-width ability; better site-style adjustments (though once you version patch ReadEasily, it can do 70% of this last in FF). Opera is currently doing roughly weekly snapshots as it approaches version 10. Epub note: there was an Opera widget that could read the format, but I don't believe it works with the latest versions. If you’re considering Chrome, I’d agree with Joseph and say you should also try Opera, which is much more mature. It’s my main browser. Three things I like about it more than Firefox (which I use as backup): much more configurable appearance and key mappings; smoother zooming (I’ve keys set to zoom in 1, 5, 10, and 100% jumps) plus fit-to-width ability; better site-style adjustments (though once you version patch ReadEasily, it can do 70% of this last in FF). Opera is currently doing roughly weekly snapshots as it approaches version 10.

Epub note: there was an Opera widget that could read the format, but I don’t believe it works with the latest versions.

]]> By: Court http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128939 Court Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:12:36 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128939 Funnily enough, within hours of commenting on your last post, David, that FF 3.5 was working just fine on my machine, it started going acting like, well, like a turkey. FF 3.5.2 solved nothing. May even have made it worse. I have now stopped using it entirely, in favor of Chrome. Which is a shame, because there were so many great plug-ins and useful tools FF had that Chrome doesn't. But like you, I'm not prepared to spend half my days sorting out technical problems with FF, any more than I would happily spend half my days fixing mechanical problems on my car. I'm mystified as to why the FF people haven't jumped on fixing these problems after so long. They must be losing users in droves. Oh well. Like it or not, Google wins again. Funnily enough, within hours of commenting on your last post, David, that FF 3.5 was working just fine on my machine, it started going acting like, well, like a turkey. FF 3.5.2 solved nothing. May even have made it worse. I have now stopped using it entirely, in favor of Chrome. Which is a shame, because there were so many great plug-ins and useful tools FF had that Chrome doesn’t.

But like you, I’m not prepared to spend half my days sorting out technical problems with FF, any more than I would happily spend half my days fixing mechanical problems on my car. I’m mystified as to why the FF people haven’t jumped on fixing these problems after so long. They must be losing users in droves. Oh well. Like it or not, Google wins again.

]]> By: Greg M. http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128902 Greg M. Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:16:45 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128902 No Firefox crashes on my MacBook Pro so far, but I basically only use the NoScript and AdBlock Plus extensions. No Firefox crashes on my MacBook Pro so far, but I basically only use the NoScript and AdBlock Plus extensions.

]]> By: HeavyG http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128890 HeavyG Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:59:07 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128890 The latest version of Firefox has been rather crash prone on my Mac. It could be due to extensions as I use rather a lot of them (and that is what keeps me using Firefox). I also tend to open very large tab sets (60+ tabs at a time) and that could contribute to the problem. As far as bookmarks I really like the Xmarks (FKA Foxmarks) addon which allows you to easily sync bookmarks across all your machines. The latest version of Firefox has been rather crash prone on my Mac. It could be due to extensions as I use rather a lot of them (and that is what keeps me using Firefox). I also tend to open very large tab sets (60+ tabs at a time) and that could contribute to the problem.

As far as bookmarks I really like the Xmarks (FKA Foxmarks) addon which allows you to easily sync bookmarks across all your machines.

]]> By: Terry http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128884 Terry Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:54:03 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128884 I understand completely this article. I have just been waiting for bookmark syncing to move back to Chrome. I have found Firefox to be slow in several ways. Most notably when closing in releasing memory. In the latest version I found that after loading my first web page after load, Firefox would stall and I would ave to wait a significant amount of time while it did who knows what. With the release of bookmark syncing in the new Dev build of chrome and Xmarks in alpha, I'm saying good by to Firefox, Thanks for all the good times but it is time for me to move on. I understand completely this article. I have just been waiting for bookmark syncing to move back to Chrome. I have found Firefox to be slow in several ways. Most notably when closing in releasing memory. In the latest version I found that after loading my first web page after load, Firefox would stall and I would ave to wait a significant amount of time while it did who knows what. With the release of bookmark syncing in the new Dev build of chrome and Xmarks in alpha, I’m saying good by to Firefox, Thanks for all the good times but it is time for me to move on.

]]> By: Josep http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128864 Josep Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:33:40 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128864 Why not just USE OPERA? USE OPERA USE OPERA http://www.opera.com best browser on earth. REALLY Why not just USE OPERA?

USE OPERA
USE OPERA

http://www.opera.com

best browser on earth. REALLY

]]> By: Paul Biba http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128860 Paul Biba Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:27:33 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128860 No reason to lose your bookmarks - ever! Just export the bookmarks with the export function of the old browser to a directory you will remember and import them again with the import function of the new browser. All browsers export marks to a universal format that can be read by any other browser. I've done this with Firefox, IE, Safari and Chrome and they all interact well. That's how I keep my bookmarks uniform among browsers and between my Mac and PC. By the way, I have absolutely no problems with the latest Firefox on my XP netbook, or on my Mac, so the plugin comment might be on point. However, for Windows work I prefer Chrome because it is so much faster. For the Mac I use Safari because Safari is much faster and renders color better. I will switch to Chrome when the come out with a Mac version. No reason to lose your bookmarks – ever! Just export the bookmarks with the export function of the old browser to a directory you will remember and import them again with the import function of the new browser. All browsers export marks to a universal format that can be read by any other browser. I’ve done this with Firefox, IE, Safari and Chrome and they all interact well. That’s how I keep my bookmarks uniform among browsers and between my Mac and PC.

By the way, I have absolutely no problems with the latest Firefox on my XP netbook, or on my Mac, so the plugin comment might be on point. However, for Windows work I prefer Chrome because it is so much faster. For the Mac I use Safari because Safari is much faster and renders color better. I will switch to Chrome when the come out with a Mac version.

]]> By: Rob Prouse http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128847 Rob Prouse Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:09:53 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128847 Have you thought that maybe it is not Firefox, but your plugins that are causing problems? I expect some plugins don't behave well yet in 3.5. I am running 3.5 with just a few plugins on a Vista and a Windows 7 machine and haven't had any crashes in ages. Have you thought that maybe it is not Firefox, but your plugins that are causing problems? I expect some plugins don’t behave well yet in 3.5. I am running 3.5 with just a few plugins on a Vista and a Windows 7 machine and haven’t had any crashes in ages.

]]> By: Katherine http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128846 Katherine Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:09:20 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128846 I thought it was just me! I've been having a terrible time with Firefox on my PC at work and my Mac at home. Sigh... I thought it was just me! I’ve been having a terrible time with Firefox on my PC at work and my Mac at home. Sigh…

]]> By: dowee http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/comment-page-1/#comment-1128808 dowee Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:11:38 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/2009/08/19/firefox-is-a-turkey-im-rolling-back-to-version-20-out-of-desperation-and-may-switch-to-chrome-or-safari/#comment-1128808 So, if you're going back to FF 2.x then you can install Openberg add-on for epub, can't you? I've thought of doing so, as there seems to be no other FF extension for epub, and Openberg stopped at version 2.x. I wish they developed something like the Scrapbook or Scrapbook+ extension, allowing for annotation, link insertion, and text highlighting. I'd like to capture web pages as epub (Scrapbook saves them as html docs, plus images, css, etc.;what if all files went into an .epub file) So, if you’re going back to FF 2.x then you can install Openberg add-on for epub, can’t you? I’ve thought of doing so, as there seems to be no other FF extension for epub, and Openberg stopped at version 2.x. I wish they developed something like the Scrapbook or Scrapbook+ extension, allowing for annotation, link insertion, and text highlighting. I’d like to capture web pages as epub (Scrapbook saves them as html docs, plus images, css, etc.;what if all files went into an .epub file)

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