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	<title>Comments on: Lawrence Lessig reviews Mark Helprin&#8217;s &#8216;Digital Barbarism&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Meadows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting in the Chinese sense? :) Make sure there are no throwable objects in the vicinity? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting in the Chinese sense? <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Make sure there are no throwable objects in the vicinity? <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pastore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Pastore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Chris, for this link and your comments. Lessig&#039;s long book review is captivating reading. It&#039;s the most crushing critique I&#039;ve read since Mark Twain&#039;s hilarious essay: &lt;a href=&quot;http://etext.virginia.edu/railton/projects/rissetto/offense.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Fenimore Cooper&#039;s Literary Offenses.
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Helprin and Lessig are just about at opposite ends of the argument about copyright laws.

Here is an excerpt from Lessig&#039;s review:

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Mark Helprin is an angry man. His book rages against the machine. It rages against modern education. (&quot;[M]odern education promotes collectivism verses what it perceives as destructive, self-promoting individualism.&quot; (53); &quot;Intense &#039;communitarianism&#039; is continued through elementary and secondary education, and then nailed firmly into the wood by experts, ideologues, and lunatics in the university.&quot; (54)). It scorns collaboration. (&quot;Collaboration, collective punishment, and group responsibility are now the watchwords of the classroom. As the chairman of the Oxford History Faculty Board, Christopher Haig, recently put it: &#039;Historians used once to work alone, reading in archives and writing in college rooms. History is now a more collaborative exercise.&#039;&quot; (53)) It hates just about everyone it describes. It practices an arrogance that assures ignorance. It teaches absolutely nothing about the hard and important questions of copyright. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It would be interesting to get these two authors together at the same time, in a live debate about this issue of copyrights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Chris, for this link and your comments. Lessig&#8217;s long book review is captivating reading. It&#8217;s the most crushing critique I&#8217;ve read since Mark Twain&#8217;s hilarious essay: <a href="http://etext.virginia.edu/railton/projects/rissetto/offense.html" rel="nofollow"> Fenimore Cooper&#8217;s Literary Offenses.<br />
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<p>Helprin and Lessig are just about at opposite ends of the argument about copyright laws.</p>
<p>Here is an excerpt from Lessig&#8217;s review:</p>
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Mark Helprin is an angry man. His book rages against the machine. It rages against modern education. (&#8220;[M]odern education promotes collectivism verses what it perceives as destructive, self-promoting individualism.&#8221; (53); &#8220;Intense &#8216;communitarianism&#8217; is continued through elementary and secondary education, and then nailed firmly into the wood by experts, ideologues, and lunatics in the university.&#8221; (54)). It scorns collaboration. (&#8220;Collaboration, collective punishment, and group responsibility are now the watchwords of the classroom. As the chairman of the Oxford History Faculty Board, Christopher Haig, recently put it: &#8216;Historians used once to work alone, reading in archives and writing in college rooms. History is now a more collaborative exercise.&#8217;&#8221; (53)) It hates just about everyone it describes. It practices an arrogance that assures ignorance. It teaches absolutely nothing about the hard and important questions of copyright. </p></blockquote>
<p>It would be interesting to get these two authors together at the same time, in a live debate about this issue of copyrights.</p>
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