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		<title>By: Tim McDonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can do is relate my personal habits, which are:

Baen Webscriptions : Several hundred dollars spent over past 3 years.

All other ebooks : ZERO.

I have found I like reading books on computer, it is easier on my old eyes. I still buy a few hardcover and a few paperbacks each year to read while traveling. I have not yet purchased an ebook reader, as I have about decided a netbook is a better value for me. The only issue will be availability of ebooks for the netbook, and I suspect I will be able to find compatible formats for a long time to come.</description>
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<p>Baen Webscriptions : Several hundred dollars spent over past 3 years.</p>
<p>All other ebooks : ZERO.</p>
<p>I have found I like reading books on computer, it is easier on my old eyes. I still buy a few hardcover and a few paperbacks each year to read while traveling. I have not yet purchased an ebook reader, as I have about decided a netbook is a better value for me. The only issue will be availability of ebooks for the netbook, and I suspect I will be able to find compatible formats for a long time to come.</p>
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		<title>By: DensityDuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 20:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always thought that ebook costs were too low.  Yes, I meant &quot;LOW&quot;.  I&#039;d rather see ebooks up at the same price as pbooks--with ebook readers given away free.  Meadows mentions &quot;giving away the blades to sell the razor&quot;, but razor manufacturers (and printer manufacturers, and videogame-console manufacturers, and cellphone service providers for that matter) have known for years that a much better model is to give away the razor and mark up the blades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that ebook costs were too low.  Yes, I meant &#8220;LOW&#8221;.  I&#8217;d rather see ebooks up at the same price as pbooks&#8211;with ebook readers given away free.  Meadows mentions &#8220;giving away the blades to sell the razor&#8221;, but razor manufacturers (and printer manufacturers, and videogame-console manufacturers, and cellphone service providers for that matter) have known for years that a much better model is to give away the razor and mark up the blades.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 23:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon pays publishers substantially less than other ebook retailers for ebooks. They demand it. While they do not make much, they do make money on most of their ebooks as a result. But it is true that they are willing to sell at a loss to bleed the competition, and sometimes they do that too.

And yes, they DO say to publishers &quot;here&#039;s what you get, deal with it&quot;. Since many publishers are now dependent on Amazon for more than 50% of their annual sales revenue, what can they say in return? Anyone who says otherwise hasn&#039;t dealt with A on a large scale.  They are willing to make threats until they get what they want.

Honest competitors in the ebook retailing space cannot compete on discounts alone in the long term. Alternative strategies do exist and will be tried, but it won&#039;t be easy. Still, it is a big, wide market full of interesting niches for the fleet of foot, and most believe open standards will prevail in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon pays publishers substantially less than other ebook retailers for ebooks. They demand it. While they do not make much, they do make money on most of their ebooks as a result. But it is true that they are willing to sell at a loss to bleed the competition, and sometimes they do that too.</p>
<p>And yes, they DO say to publishers &#8220;here&#8217;s what you get, deal with it&#8221;. Since many publishers are now dependent on Amazon for more than 50% of their annual sales revenue, what can they say in return? Anyone who says otherwise hasn&#8217;t dealt with A on a large scale.  They are willing to make threats until they get what they want.</p>
<p>Honest competitors in the ebook retailing space cannot compete on discounts alone in the long term. Alternative strategies do exist and will be tried, but it won&#8217;t be easy. Still, it is a big, wide market full of interesting niches for the fleet of foot, and most believe open standards will prevail in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: ErikZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ErikZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 17:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have purchased more books over the past 3 months for my Kindle than I had over the past 6 years.

You ask that people look ahead and try to stop Amazon, but you don&#039;t give a good reason why they need to be stopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have purchased more books over the past 3 months for my Kindle than I had over the past 6 years.</p>
<p>You ask that people look ahead and try to stop Amazon, but you don&#8217;t give a good reason why they need to be stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 12:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No numbers would seem to be pretty SOP for the book industry, probably because as you say, lots of them are very low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No numbers would seem to be pretty SOP for the book industry, probably because as you say, lots of them are very low.</p>
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		<title>By: Kasmir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kasmir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 07:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, sounds like the publishers have too high of a fixed cost overhead from their brick and mortar operations. They would need to focus and substantially downsize to realize ebook economic efficiencies. They can&#039;t due that while they continue to publish pbooks. Sounds like what is needed is a deconstruction: the sustained value editorial and marketing functions need to be spun off into small and independent editorial boutiques, and the remaining legacy physical publishing operations consolidated over time to realize physical scale economies. The boutiques could then &quot;publish&quot; directly to the ebook vendors networks while sharing the physical publishers. Hard to see that happening unless the publishers start hurting badly enough for a couple of big ones to merge physical ops and spin off editorial...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, sounds like the publishers have too high of a fixed cost overhead from their brick and mortar operations. They would need to focus and substantially downsize to realize ebook economic efficiencies. They can&#8217;t due that while they continue to publish pbooks. Sounds like what is needed is a deconstruction: the sustained value editorial and marketing functions need to be spun off into small and independent editorial boutiques, and the remaining legacy physical publishing operations consolidated over time to realize physical scale economies. The boutiques could then &#8220;publish&#8221; directly to the ebook vendors networks while sharing the physical publishers. Hard to see that happening unless the publishers start hurting badly enough for a couple of big ones to merge physical ops and spin off editorial&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lunarc</title>
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		<dc:creator>lunarc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This highlights just how sad it is that Amazon won&#039;t release its Kindle unit sales. They can only be lower than everyone thinks, in spite of selling e-books at a loss and providing free wireless.

I&#039;d hate to be an Amazon shareholder. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This highlights just how sad it is that Amazon won&#8217;t release its Kindle unit sales. They can only be lower than everyone thinks, in spite of selling e-books at a loss and providing free wireless.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d hate to be an Amazon shareholder. <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: punditius</title>
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		<dc:creator>punditius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not about cost. It&#039;s about financing. 

As I understand it, the pbook distribution system is one which allows publishers to ship more books to retailers than the retailers are able to sell. But the retailers pay in advance for those books. This generates a cash flow to publishers which allows them to operate, at an effective interest rate of zero

The problem is, this model doesn&#039;t work for ebooks. Ebooks are sold one at a time, not in advance distribution of lots. The result is that the financing isn&#039;t there, so selling ebooks would presumably require publishers to borrow money at the prevailing interest rate. 

So the primary barrier to ebooks has nothing much to do with the relative costs of printing pbooks. In effect, it may well be that pbooks are *cheaper* to print than ebooks, notwithstanding the fact that the consumer gets a more substantial and longlasting product if he buys a pbook. 

I know that this is counterintuitive. But I think it explains the inability of publishers and retailers to adjust to the ebook market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not about cost. It&#8217;s about financing. </p>
<p>As I understand it, the pbook distribution system is one which allows publishers to ship more books to retailers than the retailers are able to sell. But the retailers pay in advance for those books. This generates a cash flow to publishers which allows them to operate, at an effective interest rate of zero</p>
<p>The problem is, this model doesn&#8217;t work for ebooks. Ebooks are sold one at a time, not in advance distribution of lots. The result is that the financing isn&#8217;t there, so selling ebooks would presumably require publishers to borrow money at the prevailing interest rate. </p>
<p>So the primary barrier to ebooks has nothing much to do with the relative costs of printing pbooks. In effect, it may well be that pbooks are *cheaper* to print than ebooks, notwithstanding the fact that the consumer gets a more substantial and longlasting product if he buys a pbook. </p>
<p>I know that this is counterintuitive. But I think it explains the inability of publishers and retailers to adjust to the ebook market.</p>
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		<title>By: Raquel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 01:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either way, I&#039;d rather read the hardback.</description>
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		<title>By: Logan Kennelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logan Kennelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 18:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;S&lt;/b&gt;: I don&#039;t see people assuming that at all. What people are assuming is that all of the costs of dealing with a physical book are not under $1 as some people seem to claim, and the discount from a paper book should reflect that.

The problem is that, in the end, it doesn&#039;t matter! People will pay if they feel the product is worth it, and, right now, that often isn&#039;t the case for big titles. If publishers want customers to pay more, they need to convince us why.

Unfortunately, most publishers don&#039;t view eBooks as a supplemental sales channel to hardcover books. They believe lower-priced eBooks will cannibalize their high-margin hardcover releases

&lt;b&gt;@Richard Askenase&lt;/b&gt;: I don&#039;t think you are going to win over anyone&#039;s hearts with the argument that publishers should downsize their operations so that customers can pay less for books. Your argument implies that profits will be lower with eBooks, and I don&#039;t believe that to be the case at all.

&lt;b&gt;@Chris&lt;/b&gt;: I understand that is what you are getting at in the article. That&#039;s why I said the comments were re-treading ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>S</b>: I don&#8217;t see people assuming that at all. What people are assuming is that all of the costs of dealing with a physical book are not under $1 as some people seem to claim, and the discount from a paper book should reflect that.</p>
<p>The problem is that, in the end, it doesn&#8217;t matter! People will pay if they feel the product is worth it, and, right now, that often isn&#8217;t the case for big titles. If publishers want customers to pay more, they need to convince us why.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, most publishers don&#8217;t view eBooks as a supplemental sales channel to hardcover books. They believe lower-priced eBooks will cannibalize their high-margin hardcover releases</p>
<p><b>@Richard Askenase</b>: I don&#8217;t think you are going to win over anyone&#8217;s hearts with the argument that publishers should downsize their operations so that customers can pay less for books. Your argument implies that profits will be lower with eBooks, and I don&#8217;t believe that to be the case at all.</p>
<p><b>@Chris</b>: I understand that is what you are getting at in the article. That&#8217;s why I said the comments were re-treading ground.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 16:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is assuming that the only cost associated with publishing a book is the actual physical production of the book.  While production is certainly a portion of the cost, it is by no means the entire cost of the book.  

One must break down the cost of a book in the following way:
1) Advances to authors (of which agents also get a cut and therefore are motivated to get as large an advance as possible) and subsequent royalties
2) Editors.  While many people who advocate that authors are who matter and editors do not actually edit, readers might not feel the same if they have to wade through manuscripts to shape a book as well as cleaning up spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes.
3) Publicity.  In this age, a book will not hit big without having publicity and marketing people ensuring that a book receives some notice, be it in print, on the internet, radio, or tv interviews.  All this requires people dedicated to the sole purpose of pushing a book.
4) Production.  Whether a book is online or in print, the book has to be typeset to make it easy to read.  Again, all one has to do is compare reading 600 pages of reading manuscript pages in regular word documents as opposed to a finished typeset book.  The finished typeset book, if set well by a good interior designer, should be less strain on the eye.  
5) Support staff.  These include assistant editors, financial people, rights departments, permissions department, those who handle contracts.
6) Overhead.  This includes physical buildings such as offices and warehouses.  If/when ebooks completely take over, warehouses might not be needed.  But until then, publishing houses must find a way to maintain a warehouse with all the staff that a warehouse needs (and it&#039;s quite a large staff).  And even if warehouses will no longer be needed in the future, if ebooks become the only way of buying a book, then a publishing house will have to hire a team of data architects to keep up all the ebooks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is assuming that the only cost associated with publishing a book is the actual physical production of the book.  While production is certainly a portion of the cost, it is by no means the entire cost of the book.  </p>
<p>One must break down the cost of a book in the following way:<br />
1) Advances to authors (of which agents also get a cut and therefore are motivated to get as large an advance as possible) and subsequent royalties<br />
2) Editors.  While many people who advocate that authors are who matter and editors do not actually edit, readers might not feel the same if they have to wade through manuscripts to shape a book as well as cleaning up spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes.<br />
3) Publicity.  In this age, a book will not hit big without having publicity and marketing people ensuring that a book receives some notice, be it in print, on the internet, radio, or tv interviews.  All this requires people dedicated to the sole purpose of pushing a book.<br />
4) Production.  Whether a book is online or in print, the book has to be typeset to make it easy to read.  Again, all one has to do is compare reading 600 pages of reading manuscript pages in regular word documents as opposed to a finished typeset book.  The finished typeset book, if set well by a good interior designer, should be less strain on the eye.<br />
5) Support staff.  These include assistant editors, financial people, rights departments, permissions department, those who handle contracts.<br />
6) Overhead.  This includes physical buildings such as offices and warehouses.  If/when ebooks completely take over, warehouses might not be needed.  But until then, publishing houses must find a way to maintain a warehouse with all the staff that a warehouse needs (and it&#8217;s quite a large staff).  And even if warehouses will no longer be needed in the future, if ebooks become the only way of buying a book, then a publishing house will have to hire a team of data architects to keep up all the ebooks.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Askenase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Askenase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 15:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with publishers that a substantial cost is author&#039;s advances, author&#039;s costs (i.e costs for research on non-fiction books) and editor&#039;s fees.  (I am a HUGE believer in the importance of a good editor for ALL authors.)  Other than marketing (a separate factor), these are all the costs associated with developing a book into its final form.  After that, it&#039;s printing, warehousing and shipping.  

I do NOT accept the proposition that these costs are diminimus.  Each book is warehoused at least twice (publisher and distributor), often a third time(distributor for a retailer), and shipped at least twice (publisher to distributor then to retailer).  

There is NONE of that cost with an ebook.  There is a small cost to convert it (software), and to proof it (human cost), and a small cost to store it on a server.  Then it&#039;s done.  No further costs.  So, an ebook costs MUCH less than any printed book.  Any other position is, as Spock would say, &quot;illogical.&quot;

There is also no cost to Amazon, other than maintaining large servers, certainly MUCH less cost than warehousing and shipping an item.

So, what we have here is a tug of war between Amazon and publishers (nothing new there) but regarding a different subject- ebooks and their pricing.  I think that the consumer resistance (boycott) to pricing over $9.99 is both well founded (and logical) and effective.  Prices on Amazon for Kindle editions are dropping to that level, and Amazon appears to be selling plenty of Kindle books.  That means that the publishers ARE GETTING MONEY FROM THEIR EBOOKS.  Hello!! Isn&#039;t that what they want?  

But the publishers are ridiculous in their ebook listing price (matching them to pbooks).  So, I do expect Amazon to start putting pressure on publishers to lower their prices on Kindle ebooks.  And that is logical since the publishers prices are too high, as I said.

So where is this going?  In time, I expect the publishers to lower their ebook prices, that Amazon will lower its prices a lttle (maybe the benchmark price will be a little lower than $9.99), other e-tailers will match that price, publishers will downsize (they do NOT need the expensive Manhattan locations, for example), and they will sell a greater portion of their books as ebooks.  

And all of that appears to me to be the right direction. And, guess what, everybody profits!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with publishers that a substantial cost is author&#8217;s advances, author&#8217;s costs (i.e costs for research on non-fiction books) and editor&#8217;s fees.  (I am a HUGE believer in the importance of a good editor for ALL authors.)  Other than marketing (a separate factor), these are all the costs associated with developing a book into its final form.  After that, it&#8217;s printing, warehousing and shipping.  </p>
<p>I do NOT accept the proposition that these costs are diminimus.  Each book is warehoused at least twice (publisher and distributor), often a third time(distributor for a retailer), and shipped at least twice (publisher to distributor then to retailer).  </p>
<p>There is NONE of that cost with an ebook.  There is a small cost to convert it (software), and to proof it (human cost), and a small cost to store it on a server.  Then it&#8217;s done.  No further costs.  So, an ebook costs MUCH less than any printed book.  Any other position is, as Spock would say, &#8220;illogical.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is also no cost to Amazon, other than maintaining large servers, certainly MUCH less cost than warehousing and shipping an item.</p>
<p>So, what we have here is a tug of war between Amazon and publishers (nothing new there) but regarding a different subject- ebooks and their pricing.  I think that the consumer resistance (boycott) to pricing over $9.99 is both well founded (and logical) and effective.  Prices on Amazon for Kindle editions are dropping to that level, and Amazon appears to be selling plenty of Kindle books.  That means that the publishers ARE GETTING MONEY FROM THEIR EBOOKS.  Hello!! Isn&#8217;t that what they want?  </p>
<p>But the publishers are ridiculous in their ebook listing price (matching them to pbooks).  So, I do expect Amazon to start putting pressure on publishers to lower their prices on Kindle ebooks.  And that is logical since the publishers prices are too high, as I said.</p>
<p>So where is this going?  In time, I expect the publishers to lower their ebook prices, that Amazon will lower its prices a lttle (maybe the benchmark price will be a little lower than $9.99), other e-tailers will match that price, publishers will downsize (they do NOT need the expensive Manhattan locations, for example), and they will sell a greater portion of their books as ebooks.  </p>
<p>And all of that appears to me to be the right direction. And, guess what, everybody profits!</p>
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		<title>By: Felix Torres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix Torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In breaking down cost for e-books and p-books I don&#039;t see much mention of operational costs. It costs *amazon* a whole lot less to sell and deliver an e-book than a p-book. Regardless of the base price, the e-book has less costs added to it above and beyond the publisher&#039;s cut and most of those costs are lumped in into a sort of overhead (maintaining the servers, paying off Sprint, etc). Publishers aren&#039;t the only ones saving costs on ebooks.
As for Baen, they can collect 75% of list price simply because they are both publisher and storefront on their ebooks. And their operation is, apparently, efficient enough that some authors from other publishers are bringing their e-editions to Baen.
Big mystery there is why other publishers don&#039;t follow suit. Is it another case of fearing the &quot;wrath of the channel&quot;? Which would be silly, but... 

It reminds me of the Britannicca salesmen story that led to the creation of Encarta...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In breaking down cost for e-books and p-books I don&#8217;t see much mention of operational costs. It costs *amazon* a whole lot less to sell and deliver an e-book than a p-book. Regardless of the base price, the e-book has less costs added to it above and beyond the publisher&#8217;s cut and most of those costs are lumped in into a sort of overhead (maintaining the servers, paying off Sprint, etc). Publishers aren&#8217;t the only ones saving costs on ebooks.<br />
As for Baen, they can collect 75% of list price simply because they are both publisher and storefront on their ebooks. And their operation is, apparently, efficient enough that some authors from other publishers are bringing their e-editions to Baen.<br />
Big mystery there is why other publishers don&#8217;t follow suit. Is it another case of fearing the &#8220;wrath of the channel&#8221;? Which would be silly, but&#8230; </p>
<p>It reminds me of the Britannicca salesmen story that led to the creation of Encarta&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 07:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why anyone is buying ebooks for the same price as pbooks. It doesn&#039;t cost the same to make and distribute them, and you don&#039;t get the same value as owning a real book. Is this how it&#039;s going to be? The publishers are going to keep pretending they cost the same and charging the same? If so, when I run out of free ebooks I want to read, I&#039;ll get reaquainted with my local library. 

I think they&#039;re being incredibly greedy and fearful (drm and other attempts to restrict use) and are losing themselves a lot of potential customers. Then I wonder why ANYONE is paying stupidly high prices for drm ebooks. C&#039;mon people, stop paying them to do this and maybe they&#039;ll get a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why anyone is buying ebooks for the same price as pbooks. It doesn&#8217;t cost the same to make and distribute them, and you don&#8217;t get the same value as owning a real book. Is this how it&#8217;s going to be? The publishers are going to keep pretending they cost the same and charging the same? If so, when I run out of free ebooks I want to read, I&#8217;ll get reaquainted with my local library. </p>
<p>I think they&#8217;re being incredibly greedy and fearful (drm and other attempts to restrict use) and are losing themselves a lot of potential customers. Then I wonder why ANYONE is paying stupidly high prices for drm ebooks. C&#8217;mon people, stop paying them to do this and maybe they&#8217;ll get a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meadows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 03:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@Logan:&lt;/b&gt; What I&#039;m saying is, they&#039;re trying to get big enough to be &lt;i&gt;able&lt;/i&gt; to say “We are going to pay you $7. Make it work.” At that point, they will be doing the same thing Wal-Mart does to its suppliers. Hence, the &quot;Wal-Mart of e-books&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Logan:</b> What I&#8217;m saying is, they&#8217;re trying to get big enough to be <i>able</i> to say “We are going to pay you $7. Make it work.” At that point, they will be doing the same thing Wal-Mart does to its suppliers. Hence, the &#8220;Wal-Mart of e-books&#8221;.</p>
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