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	<title>Comments on: New distribution methods keep cropping up &#8211; time for the book trade to catch on</title>
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		<title>By: Garson O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garson O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Pastore comments on the amount of money that Stephen King obtained for “The Plant”. Most authors would be ecstatic if they had obtained even a fraction of the monetary return that King experienced. The New York Times article &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9901EFD7163CF937A35751C1A9669C8B63&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“Stephen King&#039;s E-Tale Didn&#039;t Do Too Shabbily” states:&lt;/A&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. King said he made more than $500,000 from sales of the first five chapters of the &#039;&#039;The Plant.&#039;&#039; He spent about $124,000 to advertise, and most of the rest is profit. &#039;&#039;The publisher didn&#039;t share in it or anything,&#039;&#039; he said.&lt;/blockquote&gt;When I said above that the experiment was disastrous I meant that it was disastrous for the nascent ebook market, and for the people who were left with a truncated book after conscientiously paying for each installment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Pastore comments on the amount of money that Stephen King obtained for “The Plant”. Most authors would be ecstatic if they had obtained even a fraction of the monetary return that King experienced. The New York Times article <a HREF="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9901EFD7163CF937A35751C1A9669C8B63" rel="nofollow">“Stephen King&#8217;s E-Tale Didn&#8217;t Do Too Shabbily” states:</a><br />
<blockquote>Mr. King said he made more than $500,000 from sales of the first five chapters of the &#8221;The Plant.&#8221; He spent about $124,000 to advertise, and most of the rest is profit. &#8221;The publisher didn&#8217;t share in it or anything,&#8221; he said.</p></blockquote>
<p>When I said above that the experiment was disastrous I meant that it was disastrous for the nascent ebook market, and for the people who were left with a truncated book after conscientiously paying for each installment.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Pastore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Pastore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This model is an ecosystem that is self-regulating. If enough people pay, the publisher will put out more content, and more publishers will offer their content for free. If people don&#039;t pay, the system dies. 

So if you like the work, and you take the time to pay a small amount, then everybody wins. You get the content for a very low price. And the publisher can publish without DRM (without DRM is good for everybody) -- and makes a bit of money, to keep his work going.

There are two keys to this system&#039;s survival and success. First, you need to have great content. When I download any &quot;donation ware&quot; software, and it really works beautifully to solve my problem -- then I shoot off a donation right away. I want to pay to thank the creator and to encourage the product development. I love these products and services and I want them to keep on going: Wikipedia, Open Office, Project Gutenberg, Smultron, Zip Creator, TechGuy.org,  ... and so many more. 

The second key to survival: the publishers should let the users choose how much they want to donate.

It&#039;s not easy to decide if Stephen King&#039;s experiment with donation-ware ebooks was an utter failure, or a smashing triumph. King made some mistakes: he set his bar high (he wanted 75% of the downloaders to pay); he raised his prices from one dollar to two dollars; and he recycled a 100-year-old Nathaniel Hawthorne tale about a killer philodendron. Yes, &quot;the King&quot; quit in the middle of it, because -- he said -- he wasn&#039;t making as much money this way, compared with his usual methods, where readers pay first and read later. 

Keep in mind that, before quitting &quot;The Plant&quot;, King took in -- as I remember it -- more than $ 400,000. ... (If that number is incorrect, someone please correct me. I think that is the amount he profited, after spending around $ 200,000 to set up and manage the website and the system for downloading. It&#039;s strange that the long WikiPedia article on this subject does not mention the amount of money that King took in.)

That $ 400,000 was not enough for Stephen, but I imagine that most publishers would be mildly satisfied.

Michael Pastore
50 Benefits of Ebooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This model is an ecosystem that is self-regulating. If enough people pay, the publisher will put out more content, and more publishers will offer their content for free. If people don&#8217;t pay, the system dies. </p>
<p>So if you like the work, and you take the time to pay a small amount, then everybody wins. You get the content for a very low price. And the publisher can publish without DRM (without DRM is good for everybody) &#8212; and makes a bit of money, to keep his work going.</p>
<p>There are two keys to this system&#8217;s survival and success. First, you need to have great content. When I download any &#8220;donation ware&#8221; software, and it really works beautifully to solve my problem &#8212; then I shoot off a donation right away. I want to pay to thank the creator and to encourage the product development. I love these products and services and I want them to keep on going: Wikipedia, Open Office, Project Gutenberg, Smultron, Zip Creator, TechGuy.org,  &#8230; and so many more. </p>
<p>The second key to survival: the publishers should let the users choose how much they want to donate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not easy to decide if Stephen King&#8217;s experiment with donation-ware ebooks was an utter failure, or a smashing triumph. King made some mistakes: he set his bar high (he wanted 75% of the downloaders to pay); he raised his prices from one dollar to two dollars; and he recycled a 100-year-old Nathaniel Hawthorne tale about a killer philodendron. Yes, &#8220;the King&#8221; quit in the middle of it, because &#8212; he said &#8212; he wasn&#8217;t making as much money this way, compared with his usual methods, where readers pay first and read later. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that, before quitting &#8220;The Plant&#8221;, King took in &#8212; as I remember it &#8212; more than $ 400,000. &#8230; (If that number is incorrect, someone please correct me. I think that is the amount he profited, after spending around $ 200,000 to set up and manage the website and the system for downloading. It&#8217;s strange that the long WikiPedia article on this subject does not mention the amount of money that King took in.)</p>
<p>That $ 400,000 was not enough for Stephen, but I imagine that most publishers would be mildly satisfied.</p>
<p>Michael Pastore<br />
50 Benefits of Ebooks</p>
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		<title>By: Garson O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garson O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 23:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The distributors of the movie Blank say “If you liked this movie, please donate a small amount to Annodam Films.”

This seems to be the classic &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shareware&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shareware&lt;/A&gt; model for raising funds.  Rob Preece mentions that he has experimented with this model. TeleRead ran a story about the author &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.teleread.com/2008/03/06/well-regarded-uk-writer-richard-herley-offering-the-penal-colony-and-others-novels-as-shareware/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Richard Herley who offered his work “The Penal Colony”&lt;/A&gt; and other novels as shareware.

Back in 1999 SF author &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/08/25/on-writing-for-free/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;John Scalzi put his first novel “Agent to the Stars” online as shareware&lt;/A&gt;. He accepted donations through 2004. Scalzi says “I made about $4,000 that way, which was not shabby considering I was not a known quantity in science fiction at the time”. Scalzi also obtained over $600 for the short story “How I Proposed to My Wife: An Alien Sex Story” via the shareware model.

The ebook shareware experiment with the highest profile was probably the &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plant&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;disastrous serialization of “The Plant” by Stephen King&lt;/A&gt; in 2000. King decided that too few of the people who downloaded his work were paying for it, so he stopped writing the novel in the middle and terminated the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The distributors of the movie Blank say “If you liked this movie, please donate a small amount to Annodam Films.”</p>
<p>This seems to be the classic <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shareware" rel="nofollow">shareware</a> model for raising funds.  Rob Preece mentions that he has experimented with this model. TeleRead ran a story about the author <a HREF="http://www.teleread.com/2008/03/06/well-regarded-uk-writer-richard-herley-offering-the-penal-colony-and-others-novels-as-shareware/" rel="nofollow">Richard Herley who offered his work “The Penal Colony”</a> and other novels as shareware.</p>
<p>Back in 1999 SF author <a HREF="http://whatever.scalzi.com/2008/08/25/on-writing-for-free/" rel="nofollow">John Scalzi put his first novel “Agent to the Stars” online as shareware</a>. He accepted donations through 2004. Scalzi says “I made about $4,000 that way, which was not shabby considering I was not a known quantity in science fiction at the time”. Scalzi also obtained over $600 for the short story “How I Proposed to My Wife: An Alien Sex Story” via the shareware model.</p>
<p>The ebook shareware experiment with the highest profile was probably the <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plant" rel="nofollow">disastrous serialization of “The Plant” by Stephen King</a> in 2000. King decided that too few of the people who downloaded his work were paying for it, so he stopped writing the novel in the middle and terminated the project.</p>
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		<title>By: chris bates</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 22:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re old school, Paul. I wonder how many Gen-X/Yers would pay up?

The problem with this system is that it is an extra effort to pay for the content. It&#039;s kinda like the reverse of Amazon&#039;s 1-click system. Your desire to get the product has already been satiated... no need to pay.

Which is why I wouldn&#039;t pay. Not because the product is bad or that I don&#039;t wish to support their endeavours ... but because the impulse of desire has already faded after download. I won&#039;t pay ... because I don&#039;t need to.

Does that make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re old school, Paul. I wonder how many Gen-X/Yers would pay up?</p>
<p>The problem with this system is that it is an extra effort to pay for the content. It&#8217;s kinda like the reverse of Amazon&#8217;s 1-click system. Your desire to get the product has already been satiated&#8230; no need to pay.</p>
<p>Which is why I wouldn&#8217;t pay. Not because the product is bad or that I don&#8217;t wish to support their endeavours &#8230; but because the impulse of desire has already faded after download. I won&#8217;t pay &#8230; because I don&#8217;t need to.</p>
<p>Does that make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Biba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Biba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I did, even though I haven&#039;t watched it yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I did, even though I haven&#8217;t watched it yet.</p>
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		<title>By: chris bates</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you donate, Paul?

Your answer will pretty much give you an idea of what kind of &#039;advantage&#039; there is to the &#039;honesty box&#039; model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you donate, Paul?</p>
<p>Your answer will pretty much give you an idea of what kind of &#8216;advantage&#8217; there is to the &#8216;honesty box&#8217; model.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Preece, Publisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Preece, Publisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My entries are being lost again.

I suggested that this model hasn&#039;t worked for me and I suspect it won&#039;t work for them, either. But good luck.

Rob Preece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My entries are being lost again.</p>
<p>I suggested that this model hasn&#8217;t worked for me and I suspect it won&#8217;t work for them, either. But good luck.</p>
<p>Rob Preece</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Preece, Publisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Preece, Publisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having experimented with the &#039;pay what you&#039;d like&#039; method, I wish these guys the best of luck but have low expectations. People may mean to pay, but actually getting around to it seems to be a low priority (go figure)

Rob Preece
Publisher, www.BooksForABuck.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having experimented with the &#8216;pay what you&#8217;d like&#8217; method, I wish these guys the best of luck but have low expectations. People may mean to pay, but actually getting around to it seems to be a low priority (go figure)</p>
<p>Rob Preece<br />
Publisher, <a href="http://www.BooksForABuck.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.BooksForABuck.com</a></p>
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