Comments on: ScrollMotion: Horrid e-reader on the way for iPhone with Apple DRM and backwards app-oriented approach http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/ News & views on e-books, libraries, publishing and related topics Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:28:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Suki http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-990650 Suki Wed, 24 Dec 2008 04:36:52 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/12/22/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/#comment-990650 I hope that ScrollMotion didn't tell the publishers that they are protecting the books with Apple's FairPlay DRM, because they'll get in a whole lot of trouble. The books aren't protected with any DRM at all: they are just plain HTML files in the App's zip file. You can easily see this by purchasing the book on iTunes and unzipping the [Home Folder]/Music/iTunes/Mobile Applications/Twilight 1.0.ipa file (which is just a plain zip archive). In that zip file are 471 HTML files, one for each page, all completely unprotected by any sort of DRM or encryption. I expect there will be hell to pay if ScrollMotion told the publishers that their books were going to be protected by DRM. I hope that ScrollMotion didn’t tell the publishers that they are protecting the books with Apple’s FairPlay DRM, because they’ll get in a whole lot of trouble. The books aren’t protected with any DRM at all: they are just plain HTML files in the App’s zip file. You can easily see this by purchasing the book on iTunes and unzipping the [Home Folder]/Music/iTunes/Mobile Applications/Twilight 1.0.ipa file (which is just a plain zip archive). In that zip file are 471 HTML files, one for each page, all completely unprotected by any sort of DRM or encryption.

I expect there will be hell to pay if ScrollMotion told the publishers that their books were going to be protected by DRM.

]]> By: Yoda47 http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-990331 Yoda47 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:00:11 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/12/22/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/#comment-990331 It's been said already, but this is exactly why we need DRMless ePub. I have hundreds of eBooks in the ePub format that I can read on any machine, no matter what Apple does. I'm afraid that what will happen is that this will catch on then consumers will realize how much it sucks after they've invested a lot of money into it. It’s been said already, but this is exactly why we need DRMless ePub.

I have hundreds of eBooks in the ePub format that I can read on any machine, no matter what Apple does.

I’m afraid that what will happen is that this will catch on then consumers will realize how much it sucks after they’ve invested a lot of money into it.

]]> By: David Rothman http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-990301 David Rothman Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:15:07 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/12/22/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/#comment-990301 Chris, I hope you're right, but if Apple seems money in DRM, then to hell with the rest. Thanks, David Chris, I hope you’re right, but if Apple seems money in DRM, then to hell with the rest.

Thanks,
David

]]> By: Chris Meadows http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-990296 Chris Meadows Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:09:25 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/12/22/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/#comment-990296 I frankly rather doubt Apple can get away with removing e-book applications from the store. They're too popular. There would be too much of an outcry. When Apple refused to allow that gladiatorial comic book because of violence, I believe they specifically told the publisher that they could create a stand-alone client and sell the content from their site instead. So apparently Apple doesn't object to objectionable content coming from third parties. I frankly rather doubt Apple can get away with removing e-book applications from the store. They’re too popular. There would be too much of an outcry.

When Apple refused to allow that gladiatorial comic book because of violence, I believe they specifically told the publisher that they could create a stand-alone client and sell the content from their site instead. So apparently Apple doesn’t object to objectionable content coming from third parties.

]]> By: David Rothman http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-990289 David Rothman Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:58:30 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/12/22/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/#comment-990289 Christo, Karen: Trust not in Apple. Remember how Jobs said he was backing off from DRM? And now we find he wants to turn a book, er, buck, off it---at consumers' expense, since they won't be able to own books for real. David Christo, Karen: Trust not in Apple. Remember how Jobs said he was backing off from DRM? And now we find he wants to turn a book, er, buck, off it—at consumers’ expense, since they won’t be able to own books for real. David

]]> By: Karen http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-990287 Karen Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:50:49 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/12/22/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/#comment-990287 <i>Hopefully this isn’t exclusive and the titles will continue to be available in other formats as well.</i> My thoughts exactly - what happens when Apple decides that Stanza and other readers either compete with their offerings or allows free access to objectionable content and bans it/them from the app store and erases it from your ipod/iphone the next time you sync? It's already happened with other apps that allow you to bypass the itunes store. Hopefully this isn’t exclusive and the titles will continue to be available in other formats as well.

My thoughts exactly – what happens when Apple decides that Stanza and other readers either compete with their offerings or allows free access to objectionable content and bans it/them from the app store and erases it from your ipod/iphone the next time you sync? It’s already happened with other apps that allow you to bypass the itunes store.

]]> By: Christo http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/comment-page-1/#comment-990042 Christo Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:02:18 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/blog/2008/12/22/scrollmotion-horrid-e-reader-on-the-way-for-iphone-with-apple-drm-and-backwards-app-oriented-approach/#comment-990042 This is such a retrograde step - you wouldn't buy movies or audiobooks bundled as an application, or music of course. Hopefully this isn't exclusive and the titles will continue to be available in other formats as well. This is such a retrograde step – you wouldn’t buy movies or audiobooks bundled as an application, or music of course.

Hopefully this isn’t exclusive and the titles will continue to be available in other formats as well.

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