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	<title>Comments on: Why publishers should give away e-books with hardbacks&#8212;or maybe even trade paperbacks</title>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Super-useful specifics, Garson, thanks! I hope others will comment on them and add their own. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super-useful specifics, Garson, thanks! I hope others will comment on them and add their own. David</p>
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		<title>By: Garson O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garson O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Including a companion e-book with each p-book is a great idea. 

Several years ago I was given a “Page-A-Day Calendar” in paper form. The exterior packaging of the calendar said “Free second calendar via e-mail or on the web”. To access the electronic calendar a purchaser must visit a designated website and use the code that is inside the packaging. This method is still being used today and is one implementation of the idea suggested by David Rothman and Sir Marky.

The Page-A-Day company is Workman publishing, and I think their strategy of using a code to obtain an electronic calendar is ten-years-old or more.  (However, there is an interesting difference. The purchaser of the paper calendar selects an electronic calendar from “dozens of titles”. He or she is not required to select the same calendar.)

For a paper book the code could be placed in a sealed envelope or on a scratch-off ticket inside the book jacket. Unfortunately some people might compromise the packaging to obtain the code without purchase. 

Another system for giving away a companion e-book would place a code on the purchase receipt during check-out when a paper book is acquired. This system would require some effort from the retailer and book publisher.

The software in the check-out register must be supplemented to contain a trigger so that when a book is scanned during a transaction the register will generate the appropriate code on the receipt. (Note that many check-out registers already contain more sophisticated software for activating individual gift cards of many types. So the software should be easily doable.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Including a companion e-book with each p-book is a great idea. </p>
<p>Several years ago I was given a “Page-A-Day Calendar” in paper form. The exterior packaging of the calendar said “Free second calendar via e-mail or on the web”. To access the electronic calendar a purchaser must visit a designated website and use the code that is inside the packaging. This method is still being used today and is one implementation of the idea suggested by David Rothman and Sir Marky.</p>
<p>The Page-A-Day company is Workman publishing, and I think their strategy of using a code to obtain an electronic calendar is ten-years-old or more.  (However, there is an interesting difference. The purchaser of the paper calendar selects an electronic calendar from “dozens of titles”. He or she is not required to select the same calendar.)</p>
<p>For a paper book the code could be placed in a sealed envelope or on a scratch-off ticket inside the book jacket. Unfortunately some people might compromise the packaging to obtain the code without purchase. </p>
<p>Another system for giving away a companion e-book would place a code on the purchase receipt during check-out when a paper book is acquired. This system would require some effort from the retailer and book publisher.</p>
<p>The software in the check-out register must be supplemented to contain a trigger so that when a book is scanned during a transaction the register will generate the appropriate code on the receipt. (Note that many check-out registers already contain more sophisticated software for activating individual gift cards of many types. So the software should be easily doable.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill McHale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McHale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind that including a CD with hardbacks has been done successfully by Baen for years!  They have done it with at least a dozen of their books.  Of course Baen also puts quite a few of their books up on their website for free download.  In the whole, Baen has found the experience to be more than worth their effort seeing an increase in sales of their paper books and I think also they have one of the more successful publisher run ebook stores as well.

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Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind that including a CD with hardbacks has been done successfully by Baen for years!  They have done it with at least a dozen of their books.  Of course Baen also puts quite a few of their books up on their website for free download.  In the whole, Baen has found the experience to be more than worth their effort seeing an increase in sales of their paper books and I think also they have one of the more successful publisher run ebook stores as well.</p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:10:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point, Rob. but making the bundles optional could help address the problem. Even if the E editions weren&#039;t absolutely free, they could be very cheap as part of the bundles. Meanwhile it&#039;s important to remember that production costs are just part of the cover prices.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, Rob. but making the bundles optional could help address the problem. Even if the E editions weren&#8217;t absolutely free, they could be very cheap as part of the bundles. Meanwhile it&#8217;s important to remember that production costs are just part of the cover prices.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Preece</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Preece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twenty-five cents sounds small, but it&#039;s a significant percentage of total costs. If you&#039;re talking about a trade paperback, you might be talking about a 25-30% increase in production costs. For hardback, obviously, it would be a lower percentage.

Rob Preece
Publisher, www.BooksforABuck.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twenty-five cents sounds small, but it&#8217;s a significant percentage of total costs. If you&#8217;re talking about a trade paperback, you might be talking about a 25-30% increase in production costs. For hardback, obviously, it would be a lower percentage.</p>
<p>Rob Preece<br />
Publisher, <a href="http://www.BooksforABuck.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.BooksforABuck.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on your Sony purchase, Sir Marky! That&#039;s terrific. And no problem about the overlap; we&#039;ll both have a good laugh over it. 

If the Bookseller folks don&#039;t mind, I hope you can at least briefly share with us your further thoughts on pros and cons of the reader once you&#039;ve owned it for a few weeks. Sorry about the duplication with your existing library, of course!

Re ePub downloads: Many publishers might want readers to key in a password and go to a unique URL. But that should be minor stuff compared to the hassles of DRM. Of course, there&#039;s also the CD option. If the cost is really as low as has Bill says---I have no reason to doubt him---that&#039;s another option.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on your Sony purchase, Sir Marky! That&#8217;s terrific. And no problem about the overlap; we&#8217;ll both have a good laugh over it. </p>
<p>If the Bookseller folks don&#8217;t mind, I hope you can at least briefly share with us your further thoughts on pros and cons of the reader once you&#8217;ve owned it for a few weeks. Sorry about the duplication with your existing library, of course!</p>
<p>Re ePub downloads: Many publishers might want readers to key in a password and go to a unique URL. But that should be minor stuff compared to the hassles of DRM. Of course, there&#8217;s also the CD option. If the cost is really as low as has Bill says&#8212;I have no reason to doubt him&#8212;that&#8217;s another option.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Marky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Marky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh by the way...don&#039;t yet have my reader, but hoping to pick up a burgandy one tomorrow :-)

http://www.johnlewis.com/230511737/Product.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh by the way&#8230;don&#8217;t yet have my reader, but hoping to pick up a burgandy one tomorrow <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sir Marky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Marky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not critical.  Just surprised.  I have been thinking all day about this and the download option is probably the easiest for publishers to follow on.  Those who already supply the book in ePub format don&#039;t need to do any extra work, just provide the link to their website.  If they have to add a couple of euros, pounds or dollars to a hard back book costs then I&#039;m sure this coulod be absorbed by purchasers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not critical.  Just surprised.  I have been thinking all day about this and the download option is probably the easiest for publishers to follow on.  Those who already supply the book in ePub format don&#8217;t need to do any extra work, just provide the link to their website.  If they have to add a couple of euros, pounds or dollars to a hard back book costs then I&#8217;m sure this coulod be absorbed by purchasers.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks, Marky, but you&#039;ll notice I went out of my way to say I was &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; the first with the idea---and that it actually had been carried out in the past. The hardback of the Bill Gates book came with a CD, after all. &quot;Almost word for word,&quot; moreover, is overdone. 

That said, it&#039;s wonderful to see other people thinking the same way. May the book industry pay attention to us both! 

&lt;em&gt;Further detail:&lt;/em&gt; I&#039;m a fan of The Bookseller, but at least cannot &lt;em&gt;recall&lt;/em&gt; reading your piece. At any rate, it&#039;s great to see you addressing the issue of buying the same book twice, even it&#039;s an old one with us &quot;early adopters.&quot; 

Keep commenting, even if we may disagree on this one! And hello to the rest of the good people at TheBookSeller.com!

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, Marky, but you&#8217;ll notice I went out of my way to say I was <em>not</em> the first with the idea&#8212;and that it actually had been carried out in the past. The hardback of the Bill Gates book came with a CD, after all. &#8220;Almost word for word,&#8221; moreover, is overdone. </p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;s wonderful to see other people thinking the same way. May the book industry pay attention to us both! </p>
<p><em>Further detail:</em> I&#8217;m a fan of The Bookseller, but at least cannot <em>recall</em> reading your piece. At any rate, it&#8217;s great to see you addressing the issue of buying the same book twice, even it&#8217;s an old one with us &#8220;early adopters.&#8221; </p>
<p>Keep commenting, even if we may disagree on this one! And hello to the rest of the good people at TheBookSeller.com!</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Marky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Marky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sir Marky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sir Marky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!

Didn&#039;t I propose this myself only yesterday at bookseller.com?

What gives?  It&#039;s almost word for word :-(

Marky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t I propose this myself only yesterday at bookseller.com?</p>
<p>What gives?  It&#8217;s almost word for word <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Marky</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, if CD prices can be that low---hey, this is fine by me, although a lot of people would find e-books more convenient (for direct downloads into Kindles, etc.). Totally agree with you about DRM! Thanks especially for the CD info! David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, if CD prices can be that low&#8212;hey, this is fine by me, although a lot of people would find e-books more convenient (for direct downloads into Kindles, etc.). Totally agree with you about DRM! Thanks especially for the CD info! David</p>
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		<title>By: Bill McHale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill McHale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of thoughts;
1. Including a CD probably could be done for about $0.25 a book.  More over, they should include more than just a copy of the book being sold.  Frankly, if I buy a paper book, I see darn little need to also have an e-book copy of the same book.  The only way I would consider that a bonus was if I was planning on giving the book as a gift.  The publishing house Baen other hand, figured it out years ago; a number of their hardbacks come with a CD that includes a number of novels (including often enough earlier books in the same series as the novel).  It gives the buyer of the Hardback edition a real bonus and at the same time, can be used to promote other authors that the publisher is trying to develop.

2. As for piracy, the industry is not going to stop it or even mitigate it by continuing to push DRM and charging high prices for their e-books.  Production and distribution costs are far less for ebooks; the prices charged should reflect that.  A lot of people illegally download books because what they want is either not available legally or they don&#039;t believe they are getting value for their money.  Its hard to justify an e-book that costs the same as the hardback edition of the same book especially when it costs less to produce than a paperback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of thoughts;<br />
1. Including a CD probably could be done for about $0.25 a book.  More over, they should include more than just a copy of the book being sold.  Frankly, if I buy a paper book, I see darn little need to also have an e-book copy of the same book.  The only way I would consider that a bonus was if I was planning on giving the book as a gift.  The publishing house Baen other hand, figured it out years ago; a number of their hardbacks come with a CD that includes a number of novels (including often enough earlier books in the same series as the novel).  It gives the buyer of the Hardback edition a real bonus and at the same time, can be used to promote other authors that the publisher is trying to develop.</p>
<p>2. As for piracy, the industry is not going to stop it or even mitigate it by continuing to push DRM and charging high prices for their e-books.  Production and distribution costs are far less for ebooks; the prices charged should reflect that.  A lot of people illegally download books because what they want is either not available legally or they don&#8217;t believe they are getting value for their money.  Its hard to justify an e-book that costs the same as the hardback edition of the same book especially when it costs less to produce than a paperback.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Rich. Let&#039;s hope people can get the accounting right. If the cost of digital production and distribution can be low enough, then it would be a shame of the publishers didn&#039;t try the bundling arrangement I proposed---at least for interested customers. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rich. Let&#8217;s hope people can get the accounting right. If the cost of digital production and distribution can be low enough, then it would be a shame of the publishers didn&#8217;t try the bundling arrangement I proposed&#8212;at least for interested customers. David</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Adin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Adin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, publishers are correct: editorial costs do not change with the medium; production costs, however, do change. Unfortunately, editorial and production costs often get merged into a single term (either editorial or production) when the costs of publishing a book are discussed even though they are different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, publishers are correct: editorial costs do not change with the medium; production costs, however, do change. Unfortunately, editorial and production costs often get merged into a single term (either editorial or production) when the costs of publishing a book are discussed even though they are different.</p>
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