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	<title>Comments on: Wired blogger&#8217;s &quot;Kindle 2.0&quot; wish list</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Meadows</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/wired-bloggers-kindle-20-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-888083</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 20:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you would really have to know is how to use the search function to find some reasonably unique word or phrase you remember reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you would really have to know is how to use the search function to find some reasonably unique word or phrase you remember reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Jonz</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/wired-bloggers-kindle-20-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-888025</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Jonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich asks:

&lt;blockquote&gt; Why do you think that people will read on both platforms?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m one of those people.  My iLiad is my primary e-reader, but I don&#039;t usually carry it with me when I leave the house.  I &lt;i&gt;always&lt;/i&gt; have my iPod with me, however, since I use it primarily as my daytimer, so I also use it as my &quot;auxiliary&quot; e-reader.

&lt;blockquote&gt;[M]ost people (the vast majority) read one book beginning to end before starting a second book.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m one of those people, too.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It would certainly be difficult to read the same book on both platforms; how would you know where you are with different methods of “pagination”?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I haven&#039;t found this to be much of a problem.  Sure, it requires a bit of navigation to find my place when I switch devices, but it typically takes less than a minute to do so.  It&#039;s a small price to pay to be able to keep reading when I find myself with some time to kill while I&#039;m away from home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich asks:</p>
<blockquote><p> Why do you think that people will read on both platforms?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m one of those people.  My iLiad is my primary e-reader, but I don&#8217;t usually carry it with me when I leave the house.  I <i>always</i> have my iPod with me, however, since I use it primarily as my daytimer, so I also use it as my &#8220;auxiliary&#8221; e-reader.</p>
<blockquote><p>[M]ost people (the vast majority) read one book beginning to end before starting a second book.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m one of those people, too.</p>
<blockquote><p>It would certainly be difficult to read the same book on both platforms; how would you know where you are with different methods of “pagination”?</p></blockquote>
<p>I haven&#8217;t found this to be much of a problem.  Sure, it requires a bit of navigation to find my place when I switch devices, but it typically takes less than a minute to do so.  It&#8217;s a small price to pay to be able to keep reading when I find myself with some time to kill while I&#8217;m away from home.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meadows</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/wired-bloggers-kindle-20-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-887946</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@Aaron:&lt;/b&gt; All right, I&#039;ll bite:

&lt;b&gt;Battery Life:&lt;/b&gt; The iPhone&#039;s battery life may be a bit short if you don&#039;t take any measures to preserve it, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teleread.com/blog/2008/08/18/e-book-tips-for-iphoners-to-stretch-their-battery-lives/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;there are things that can be done&lt;/a&gt; to extend it. Turn off wi-fi, BlueTooth…even go into full-on Airplane Mode to shut down the cell-phone side of things. You won&#039;t be able to make or receive calls, but that just means you&#039;ll have some uninterrupted reading time.

As for the iPod Touch, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teleread.com/blog/2008/08/19/ipod-touch-e-book-battery-test-from-fictionwises-steve-pendergrast-son-95-10-hours-for-indoor-reading/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;battery tests&lt;/a&gt; have shown you can get 9 to 10 hours of reading time out of it on a charge. That&#039;s not too bad.

&lt;b&gt;Book Prices, Selection:&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;m not sure how Amazon has that great an advantage here. I gather that their book prices tend to be a bit cheaper than the dead-tree prices, but in about the same range. And you can only buy from Amazon (or else go through a bit of rigamarole to convert stuff bought elsewhere). The iPhone on the other hand can buy from eReader and Fictionwise (via eReader) and Baen Webscriptions (via Bookshelf). eReader and Fictionwise price some books fairly high but other fairly low, and Baen&#039;s prices are a lot cheaper than the dead-tree editons.

&lt;b&gt;Screen Glare:&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;ll grant this is an issue, but no reader is perfect. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@Aaron:</b> All right, I&#8217;ll bite:</p>
<p><b>Battery Life:</b> The iPhone&#8217;s battery life may be a bit short if you don&#8217;t take any measures to preserve it, but <a href="http://www.teleread.com/blog/2008/08/18/e-book-tips-for-iphoners-to-stretch-their-battery-lives/" rel="nofollow">there are things that can be done</a> to extend it. Turn off wi-fi, BlueTooth…even go into full-on Airplane Mode to shut down the cell-phone side of things. You won&#8217;t be able to make or receive calls, but that just means you&#8217;ll have some uninterrupted reading time.</p>
<p>As for the iPod Touch, <a href="http://www.teleread.com/blog/2008/08/19/ipod-touch-e-book-battery-test-from-fictionwises-steve-pendergrast-son-95-10-hours-for-indoor-reading/" rel="nofollow">battery tests</a> have shown you can get 9 to 10 hours of reading time out of it on a charge. That&#8217;s not too bad.</p>
<p><b>Book Prices, Selection:</b> I&#8217;m not sure how Amazon has that great an advantage here. I gather that their book prices tend to be a bit cheaper than the dead-tree prices, but in about the same range. And you can only buy from Amazon (or else go through a bit of rigamarole to convert stuff bought elsewhere). The iPhone on the other hand can buy from eReader and Fictionwise (via eReader) and Baen Webscriptions (via Bookshelf). eReader and Fictionwise price some books fairly high but other fairly low, and Baen&#8217;s prices are a lot cheaper than the dead-tree editons.</p>
<p><b>Screen Glare:</b> I&#8217;ll grant this is an issue, but no reader is perfect. <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Pressman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Pressman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you started with the e-reader/iphone as your base, you&#039;d have a completely different wish list, as it has other fatal flaws, like battery life, book prices, book selection and screen glare outdoors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you started with the e-reader/iphone as your base, you&#8217;d have a completely different wish list, as it has other fatal flaws, like battery life, book prices, book selection and screen glare outdoors.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Meadows</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/wired-bloggers-kindle-20-wish-list/comment-page-1/#comment-887910</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s odd that so many people are complaining about reading books on such a small screen as if it were obviously something no one would want to do. The iPhone&#039;s screen is just as wide as and 50% taller than the original Palm&#039;s. It has twice the resolution of the original Palm, and color to boot.

And so many people started e-reading with the original Palm that it caused a sea change in e-book reading—it pretty much single-handedly created the handheld e-book market that launched both eReader (&lt;i&gt;nee&lt;/i&gt; Peanut Press) and Fictionwise.

I can&#039;t help thinking it&#039;s just a little too late to be doubtful people will read on screens that tiny. The evidence shows they&#039;ve been doing it for ten years; why would they stop now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s odd that so many people are complaining about reading books on such a small screen as if it were obviously something no one would want to do. The iPhone&#8217;s screen is just as wide as and 50% taller than the original Palm&#8217;s. It has twice the resolution of the original Palm, and color to boot.</p>
<p>And so many people started e-reading with the original Palm that it caused a sea change in e-book reading—it pretty much single-handedly created the handheld e-book market that launched both eReader (<i>nee</i> Peanut Press) and Fictionwise.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help thinking it&#8217;s just a little too late to be doubtful people will read on screens that tiny. The evidence shows they&#8217;ve been doing it for ten years; why would they stop now?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Adin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Adin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I&#039;m curious. Why do you think that people will read on both platforms? It would certainly be difficult to read the same book on both platforms; how would you know where you are with different methods of &quot;pagination&quot;? And although a good number of people read multiple books concurrently (not quite the right word but you know what I mean), studies have shown that most people (the vast majority) read one book beginning to end before starting a second book.

I think the more likely scenario is that casual readers -- those who read 1-3 books a year or largely read fan fiction, magazines, or newspapers -- will be willing to read on the iPhone-type device (largely, I suspect, because they have short attention spans for reading), whereas the serious reader will not be willing to do more than casual reading, if even that, on such devices, preferring instead the dedicated ebook-reading device.

I know that in my case, I have no interest in reading on an iPhone-type device. I can&#039;t imagine reading 4-5 hours a day on it, which is what I currently spend reading on my Sony Reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I&#8217;m curious. Why do you think that people will read on both platforms? It would certainly be difficult to read the same book on both platforms; how would you know where you are with different methods of &#8220;pagination&#8221;? And although a good number of people read multiple books concurrently (not quite the right word but you know what I mean), studies have shown that most people (the vast majority) read one book beginning to end before starting a second book.</p>
<p>I think the more likely scenario is that casual readers &#8212; those who read 1-3 books a year or largely read fan fiction, magazines, or newspapers &#8212; will be willing to read on the iPhone-type device (largely, I suspect, because they have short attention spans for reading), whereas the serious reader will not be willing to do more than casual reading, if even that, on such devices, preferring instead the dedicated ebook-reading device.</p>
<p>I know that in my case, I have no interest in reading on an iPhone-type device. I can&#8217;t imagine reading 4-5 hours a day on it, which is what I currently spend reading on my Sony Reader.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary and Igorsk: 

1. Oh, heck, the iPhone doesn&#039;t literally simulate a p-book. Common apps use reflowable text, not a PDFish approach. And of course there are the usual advantages of e-books. Even an 8G Touch, which I down, can include a pretty good-sized personal library.

2. Platform depends on the users&#039; preference. eReader / Fictionwise has already told how it&#039;s moving iPhone books.

3. Many people will read on both platforms. The larger-screened Sony Reader or Kindle might be good for the home or office. But you can&#039;t put either in your pants pocket, etc.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary and Igorsk: </p>
<p>1. Oh, heck, the iPhone doesn&#8217;t literally simulate a p-book. Common apps use reflowable text, not a PDFish approach. And of course there are the usual advantages of e-books. Even an 8G Touch, which I down, can include a pretty good-sized personal library.</p>
<p>2. Platform depends on the users&#8217; preference. eReader / Fictionwise has already told how it&#8217;s moving iPhone books.</p>
<p>3. Many people will read on both platforms. The larger-screened Sony Reader or Kindle might be good for the home or office. But you can&#8217;t put either in your pants pocket, etc.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: igorsk</title>
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		<dc:creator>igorsk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried reading on iPhone. It&#039;s enough for some short reads, but long sessions are not a pleasant experience. No hardware buttons is a big issue. I prefer my Sony Reader much more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried reading on iPhone. It&#8217;s enough for some short reads, but long sessions are not a pleasant experience. No hardware buttons is a big issue. I prefer my Sony Reader much more.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Frost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would anyone want to simulate a print book on a communication device? The mimic of an older medium seems regressive. Print navigation is tiresome on screen and connectivity is underused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone want to simulate a print book on a communication device? The mimic of an older medium seems regressive. Print navigation is tiresome on screen and connectivity is underused.</p>
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