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	<title>Comments on: Wowio sorrows (continued): Site has taken away the free PDFs of &#8216;Alice&#8217; and done a Gradgrind act</title>
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		<title>By: Gerry Manacsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerry Manacsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 07:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who use an iPhone or iPod Touch, I&#039;d encourage you to come visit WOWIO to try out the new iPhone-specific webapp. We&#039;re trying out an all-new interface and a different ad model which may address some of the issues raised here. 

Go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wowio.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wowio.com&lt;/a&gt; on your iPhone/Touch and you&#039;ll automatically be sent to the iPhone edition of WOWIO.

I&#039;d love to hear your feedback (here or you can follow &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/WOWIO&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WOWIO on Twitter&lt;/a&gt; and send comments there).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who use an iPhone or iPod Touch, I&#8217;d encourage you to come visit WOWIO to try out the new iPhone-specific webapp. We&#8217;re trying out an all-new interface and a different ad model which may address some of the issues raised here. </p>
<p>Go to <a href="http://www.wowio.com" rel="nofollow">wowio.com</a> on your iPhone/Touch and you&#8217;ll automatically be sent to the iPhone edition of WOWIO.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear your feedback (here or you can follow <a href="http://twitter.com/WOWIO" rel="nofollow">WOWIO on Twitter</a> and send comments there).</p>
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		<title>By: Garthe Kindler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garthe Kindler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also removed Wowio from my bookmarks. I really appreciated the previous availability of books from the site though sponsorship and didn&#039;t mind the ads. Now, the site is a joke. Why would I pay them for books in the public domain and available elsewhere for free? They&#039;ve taken a huge step backwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve also removed Wowio from my bookmarks. I really appreciated the previous availability of books from the site though sponsorship and didn&#8217;t mind the ads. Now, the site is a joke. Why would I pay them for books in the public domain and available elsewhere for free? They&#8217;ve taken a huge step backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Jonz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Jonz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David writes:

&gt; isn’t there a way to distinguish American
&gt; visitors from others—geographically, at least?

Not really.  A proxy server or onion router can easily be used to mask the actual origin of an HTTP request.

&gt; Looking on Wowio for a PDF freebie of Alice’s
&gt; Adventure Under Ground, the Lewis Carroll
&gt; classic? Forget it.

Why bother with Wowio for titles like this in the first place?  I go to Feedbooks, which deserves our support for a wide variety of reasons.  No, &lt;i&gt;Alice’s Adventure Under Ground&lt;/i&gt; isn&#039;t currently available from Feedbooks, but you&#039;ll note on Carroll&#039;s author page a user request from last January that &lt;i&gt;Sylvie and Bruno&lt;/i&gt; be added to the collection, and it&#039;s now available.  Ask and perhaps ye shall receive.

&gt; I was a bit sarcastic in suggesting that Wowio’s
&gt; loud ads in online editions were a way to torture
&gt; you into buying PDF files.

Sarcasm aside, there can be little doubt that this is at least part of the sales strategy.

&gt; Blinking ads are the enemy of immersive reading 

Not to mention mouse-over ads that mask the content you&#039;re trying to read when you inadvertently move the mouse pointer across them -- argh!  That&#039;s why I&#039;ve installed the Adblock Plus plug-in on my browser; I just did a test drive at Wowio and was able to view a randomly chosen title online without seeing any ads.

&gt; According to Will, I shouldn’t bemoan the barrage
&gt; of ads because such similar distractions are in
&gt; the face of visitors to &quot;mainstream news and
&gt; information&quot; sites.

Or, to put it another way, &quot;We&#039;re no more obnoxious than most other sites.&quot;  Not a particularly strong endorsement IMHO.

&gt; if garish ads are so such life-enhancers, shouldn’t
&gt; the rich put up billboards on their country estates?

Visit Vermont sometime.  Billboards are prohibited by law.  When we moved to Vermont from California we hadn&#039;t been in the state for more than a couple of hours before we remarked on the conspicuous absence of billboards.  Curiously, we don&#039;t feel any less free as a result of Vermont&#039;s prohibition of outdoor advertising.  In fact, the beauty of the Green Mountains is all the more apparent for lack of billboards calling one&#039;s attention to the nearest fast food restaurant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David writes:</p>
<p>&gt; isn’t there a way to distinguish American<br />
&gt; visitors from others—geographically, at least?</p>
<p>Not really.  A proxy server or onion router can easily be used to mask the actual origin of an HTTP request.</p>
<p>&gt; Looking on Wowio for a PDF freebie of Alice’s<br />
&gt; Adventure Under Ground, the Lewis Carroll<br />
&gt; classic? Forget it.</p>
<p>Why bother with Wowio for titles like this in the first place?  I go to Feedbooks, which deserves our support for a wide variety of reasons.  No, <i>Alice’s Adventure Under Ground</i> isn&#8217;t currently available from Feedbooks, but you&#8217;ll note on Carroll&#8217;s author page a user request from last January that <i>Sylvie and Bruno</i> be added to the collection, and it&#8217;s now available.  Ask and perhaps ye shall receive.</p>
<p>&gt; I was a bit sarcastic in suggesting that Wowio’s<br />
&gt; loud ads in online editions were a way to torture<br />
&gt; you into buying PDF files.</p>
<p>Sarcasm aside, there can be little doubt that this is at least part of the sales strategy.</p>
<p>&gt; Blinking ads are the enemy of immersive reading </p>
<p>Not to mention mouse-over ads that mask the content you&#8217;re trying to read when you inadvertently move the mouse pointer across them &#8212; argh!  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;ve installed the Adblock Plus plug-in on my browser; I just did a test drive at Wowio and was able to view a randomly chosen title online without seeing any ads.</p>
<p>&gt; According to Will, I shouldn’t bemoan the barrage<br />
&gt; of ads because such similar distractions are in<br />
&gt; the face of visitors to &#8220;mainstream news and<br />
&gt; information&#8221; sites.</p>
<p>Or, to put it another way, &#8220;We&#8217;re no more obnoxious than most other sites.&#8221;  Not a particularly strong endorsement IMHO.</p>
<p>&gt; if garish ads are so such life-enhancers, shouldn’t<br />
&gt; the rich put up billboards on their country estates?</p>
<p>Visit Vermont sometime.  Billboards are prohibited by law.  When we moved to Vermont from California we hadn&#8217;t been in the state for more than a couple of hours before we remarked on the conspicuous absence of billboards.  Curiously, we don&#8217;t feel any less free as a result of Vermont&#8217;s prohibition of outdoor advertising.  In fact, the beauty of the Green Mountains is all the more apparent for lack of billboards calling one&#8217;s attention to the nearest fast food restaurant.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/wowio-sorrows-continued-site-has-taken-away-the-free-pdfs-of-alice-and-done-a-gradgrind-act/comment-page-1/#comment-868771</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wowio had promise, but selling to a shitty company like Platinum Studios is a BAD sign of things to come. This change in formats is the first proof of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wowio had promise, but selling to a shitty company like Platinum Studios is a BAD sign of things to come. This change in formats is the first proof of that.</p>
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		<title>By: bwaldron</title>
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		<dc:creator>bwaldron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; There will be positive publicity here
&gt;&gt; if/when Wowio deserves it.

Thanks...because I have removed Wowio from my bookmarks and won&#039;t be visiting again. The re-launched site is a major disappointment, and simply not worth my time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; There will be positive publicity here<br />
&gt;&gt; if/when Wowio deserves it.</p>
<p>Thanks&#8230;because I have removed Wowio from my bookmarks and won&#8217;t be visiting again. The re-launched site is a major disappointment, and simply not worth my time.</p>
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