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	<title>Comments on: The Power of Amazon: The pros and cons</title>
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		<title>By: HeavyG</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/the-power-of-amazon-the-pros-and-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-844838</link>
		<dc:creator>HeavyG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why one would describe amazon&#039;s behavior in its dealings with suppliers as &quot;arrogance&quot;. Amazon has joined the ranks of major league retailers and all major league retailers squeeze their suppliers in order to gain concessions in price and other concerns. That is a normal part of the retail business. 

Perhaps publishers aren&#039;t used to being subjected to this sort of pressure until recently but they should now certainly realize that the days of themselves  squeezing little bookshops are gone.

Kudos to amazon for flexing those muscles. I have been an amazon customer since 1996 and due to them I have been able to buy far more books than if I had been left to the traditional brick and mortar stores - whether chains or independent bookstores. I&#039;m sure publishers have also made far more money off me than they would have had amazon not existed.

I also don&#039;t believe it will be as easy for others to knock amazon off their pedestal as Peter suggests. Amazon has literally spent billions of dollars creating its warehouse/distribution operations in order to provide the sort of smooth customer experience they now provide. It&#039;s not too likely there would be the same commitment on the part of shareholders to go thru that same number of years of profitless existence to recreate what amazon has built. But, retail is a funny game and you never can be sure what is going to happen. 

I&#039;m with Allan on the whole amazon/DRM thing. Despite all the talk you see on this blog and others that seem to blame amazon for driving the DRM mess and how it is a ploy to tie consumers to the Kindle the reality is that the publishers are almost assuredly the ones that require amazon to sell their titles with DRM.

To answer Roger - I still buy lots of books (and other stuff) from amazon. Both P and E. I don&#039;t remember the last time I bought a new book anywhere else. When buying new books most other outlets seldom have prices cheaper than amazon when the free shipping I get as a Prime member is factored in. Given amazons wonderful distribution system I can get many of my books essentially overnight without having to pay extra for overnight shipping.

Used books I can occasionally find elsewhere for less - and usually Book Burro shows me that place is half.com/ebay. However, I will admit that I am a sucker for amazons 1-Click so I usually won&#039;t bother unless the savings are significant.

Is there a chance that amazon may get &quot;too big for its britches&quot;? Sure, but I think people used to have the same concern about Wal-Mart. Both are retail giants and they understand that if they ignore the competitive pressures of the marketplace that somebody else very likely will try to at least skim  away a chunk of their customer base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why one would describe amazon&#8217;s behavior in its dealings with suppliers as &#8220;arrogance&#8221;. Amazon has joined the ranks of major league retailers and all major league retailers squeeze their suppliers in order to gain concessions in price and other concerns. That is a normal part of the retail business. </p>
<p>Perhaps publishers aren&#8217;t used to being subjected to this sort of pressure until recently but they should now certainly realize that the days of themselves  squeezing little bookshops are gone.</p>
<p>Kudos to amazon for flexing those muscles. I have been an amazon customer since 1996 and due to them I have been able to buy far more books than if I had been left to the traditional brick and mortar stores &#8211; whether chains or independent bookstores. I&#8217;m sure publishers have also made far more money off me than they would have had amazon not existed.</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t believe it will be as easy for others to knock amazon off their pedestal as Peter suggests. Amazon has literally spent billions of dollars creating its warehouse/distribution operations in order to provide the sort of smooth customer experience they now provide. It&#8217;s not too likely there would be the same commitment on the part of shareholders to go thru that same number of years of profitless existence to recreate what amazon has built. But, retail is a funny game and you never can be sure what is going to happen. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Allan on the whole amazon/DRM thing. Despite all the talk you see on this blog and others that seem to blame amazon for driving the DRM mess and how it is a ploy to tie consumers to the Kindle the reality is that the publishers are almost assuredly the ones that require amazon to sell their titles with DRM.</p>
<p>To answer Roger &#8211; I still buy lots of books (and other stuff) from amazon. Both P and E. I don&#8217;t remember the last time I bought a new book anywhere else. When buying new books most other outlets seldom have prices cheaper than amazon when the free shipping I get as a Prime member is factored in. Given amazons wonderful distribution system I can get many of my books essentially overnight without having to pay extra for overnight shipping.</p>
<p>Used books I can occasionally find elsewhere for less &#8211; and usually Book Burro shows me that place is half.com/ebay. However, I will admit that I am a sucker for amazons 1-Click so I usually won&#8217;t bother unless the savings are significant.</p>
<p>Is there a chance that amazon may get &#8220;too big for its britches&#8221;? Sure, but I think people used to have the same concern about Wal-Mart. Both are retail giants and they understand that if they ignore the competitive pressures of the marketplace that somebody else very likely will try to at least skim  away a chunk of their customer base.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/the-power-of-amazon-the-pros-and-cons/comment-page-1/#comment-844768</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think publishers are still afraid of e-book because they represents change, and they don&#039;t like it. The publishing industry hasn&#039;t changed in century&#039;s so naturally they are reluctant to change and embrace new technologies.

I think once publishers get on board and truly embrace e-books as a viable (and profitable) model of content distribution that&#039;s when we will see the power shift back towards the publishers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think publishers are still afraid of e-book because they represents change, and they don&#8217;t like it. The publishing industry hasn&#8217;t changed in century&#8217;s so naturally they are reluctant to change and embrace new technologies.</p>
<p>I think once publishers get on board and truly embrace e-books as a viable (and profitable) model of content distribution that&#8217;s when we will see the power shift back towards the publishers.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone still buy books from Amazon anymore (P or E)? I&#039;m asking seriously.   Half.com has cheaper used prices, and everyday discounts for new books are available not only at amazon.  I&#039;m planning to purchase a travel ebook next month, and my Cybook doesn&#039;t support Kindle&#039;s DRM, so I certainly won&#039;t buy it from amazon.com

I buy a lot from amazon, but rarely books. Amazon has great community features and good reviewing software, but does that imply they can sustain their market dominance?

The last thing I bought from Amazon.com is a printer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone still buy books from Amazon anymore (P or E)? I&#8217;m asking seriously.   Half.com has cheaper used prices, and everyday discounts for new books are available not only at amazon.  I&#8217;m planning to purchase a travel ebook next month, and my Cybook doesn&#8217;t support Kindle&#8217;s DRM, so I certainly won&#8217;t buy it from amazon.com</p>
<p>I buy a lot from amazon, but rarely books. Amazon has great community features and good reviewing software, but does that imply they can sustain their market dominance?</p>
<p>The last thing I bought from Amazon.com is a printer.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wallcraft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Wallcraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon&#039;s approach to the Kindle only works because publishers require DRM.  Any publisher can sell a DRM-free Kindle (MOBI) ebook, and it is readable on practically every device out there - from cell phones to Desktops.  Amazon&#039;s market power and Whispernet downloads would still be a factor without DRM, but Kindle owners could then use publisher sites and FictionWise (say) as alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon&#8217;s approach to the Kindle only works because publishers require DRM.  Any publisher can sell a DRM-free Kindle (MOBI) ebook, and it is readable on practically every device out there &#8211; from cell phones to Desktops.  Amazon&#8217;s market power and Whispernet downloads would still be a factor without DRM, but Kindle owners could then use publisher sites and FictionWise (say) as alternatives.</p>
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