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	<title>Comments on: &quot;If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog&quot;&#8212;but don&#8217;t attribute the quote to Truman if Googled info is right</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Boussy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Boussy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading historical novels wherein it was a common practice to hunt deer by running hounds then the following seems more than likely: a hunter posted on a stand awaiting the buck being pursued by hounds would likely have used the phrase &quot;the buck stops here&quot; as a form of bragging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading historical novels wherein it was a common practice to hunt deer by running hounds then the following seems more than likely: a hunter posted on a stand awaiting the buck being pursued by hounds would likely have used the phrase &#8220;the buck stops here&#8221; as a form of bragging.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Keyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph Keyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you can&#039;t stand the heat&quot; and &quot;The buck stops here&quot; are also discussed in THE QUOTE VERIFIER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you can&#8217;t stand the heat&#8221; and &#8220;The buck stops here&#8221; are also discussed in THE QUOTE VERIFIER.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Kiesche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Kiesche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIRC, I saw that sign at the desk in the Truman library (great place to visit; they have a recreation of the Oval Office!).

No commentary intended on whether or not Truman said any of that; he just happens to be one of my favorite presidents, is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIRC, I saw that sign at the desk in the Truman library (great place to visit; they have a recreation of the Oval Office!).</p>
<p>No commentary intended on whether or not Truman said any of that; he just happens to be one of my favorite presidents, is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Garson O'Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garson O'Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to David Rothman for mentioning my earlier TeleRead articles about quotations.

It happens that the origins of both the Truman quotes alluded to in Fred Kiesche’s comment are disputed. Yet the fact that Truman used the quotes is not really disputed.

The Yale Book of Quotations (YBQ) attributes the earliest documented use of the phrase “If you don’t like the heat, get out of the kitchen” to Harry Vaughan, U.S. presidential advisor and general, 1893-1981. It says the phrase first appeared in Time magazine in April 1952. 

The phrase is often attributed to Truman and he did say it, but Truman does not claim that he created it. In a speech in December 1952 Truman said he heard it from a “colleague on the Jackson County Court”. This datum also comes from the YBQ which cites a biography of Truman by Wolfgang Mieder.

“The Buck Stops Here” did appear as a sign on Truman’s desk according to multiple references. But the YBQ says that it has an older history, and it cites a photo of a sign with the quote on an Army Colonel’s desk that appeared in a newspaper in October 1942.

Calvin Coolidge said a related phrase “I won’t pass the buck” in 1920 according to a 1924 reference cited in the YBQ. There is more information on both phrases in the YBQ which unfortunately is not online.

A quick Google Book search on the phrases using upper limits on the dates yields too many spurious hits with incorrect chronological information to be quickly useful. Google Book search is a powerful tool but all the results it gives have to be reviewed and cross-checked carefully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to David Rothman for mentioning my earlier TeleRead articles about quotations.</p>
<p>It happens that the origins of both the Truman quotes alluded to in Fred Kiesche’s comment are disputed. Yet the fact that Truman used the quotes is not really disputed.</p>
<p>The Yale Book of Quotations (YBQ) attributes the earliest documented use of the phrase “If you don’t like the heat, get out of the kitchen” to Harry Vaughan, U.S. presidential advisor and general, 1893-1981. It says the phrase first appeared in Time magazine in April 1952. </p>
<p>The phrase is often attributed to Truman and he did say it, but Truman does not claim that he created it. In a speech in December 1952 Truman said he heard it from a “colleague on the Jackson County Court”. This datum also comes from the YBQ which cites a biography of Truman by Wolfgang Mieder.</p>
<p>“The Buck Stops Here” did appear as a sign on Truman’s desk according to multiple references. But the YBQ says that it has an older history, and it cites a photo of a sign with the quote on an Army Colonel’s desk that appeared in a newspaper in October 1942.</p>
<p>Calvin Coolidge said a related phrase “I won’t pass the buck” in 1920 according to a 1924 reference cited in the YBQ. There is more information on both phrases in the YBQ which unfortunately is not online.</p>
<p>A quick Google Book search on the phrases using upper limits on the dates yields too many spurious hits with incorrect chronological information to be quickly useful. Google Book search is a powerful tool but all the results it gives have to be reviewed and cross-checked carefully.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Fred, let&#039;s hope THOSE are authentic. :-) Thanks. David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Fred, let&#8217;s hope THOSE are authentic. <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks. David</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Kiesche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Kiesche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. After all, the buck stops here!</description>
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