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	<title>Comments on: E-books and &#8216;the international whisper campaign against fair use&#8217;&#8212;plus millions in lobbying fees from PW owner Reed Elsevier</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Branko
Actually the high damages aren&#039;t as much of a problem as the cost to litigate.  If your lawyer sees an inside of the courtroom, you are talking about at least 30-40 billable hours, which with good civil lawyers (at least in the SF bay area) charging ~$300 an hour will be an out of pocket expense of $6K to $12k (plus a retainer), and the costs can climb quickly upwards from there (unless your lawyer is cutting you a sweetheart deal).  If you win, as a prevailing party you might be entitled to recoup your legal expenses but that&#039;s a bit of an arduous process in and of itself.  

ficbot
An interesting parallel in the Music business was/is AllOfMp3.com which is a Russian online store which offered low priced music (through compulsory licensing).  There have been several opinions about if importation (say a US or Canadian purchasing music from their site) is legal, but every one seemed to agree the it depended upon  the laws of the country purchasing the product.
Here&#039;s a link to AllOfMp3 FAQ on the subject: http://allofmp3.ru/press/centre.shtml?s=993&amp;d=18191974&amp;r=291867496</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Branko<br />
Actually the high damages aren&#8217;t as much of a problem as the cost to litigate.  If your lawyer sees an inside of the courtroom, you are talking about at least 30-40 billable hours, which with good civil lawyers (at least in the SF bay area) charging ~$300 an hour will be an out of pocket expense of $6K to $12k (plus a retainer), and the costs can climb quickly upwards from there (unless your lawyer is cutting you a sweetheart deal).  If you win, as a prevailing party you might be entitled to recoup your legal expenses but that&#8217;s a bit of an arduous process in and of itself.  </p>
<p>ficbot<br />
An interesting parallel in the Music business was/is AllOfMp3.com which is a Russian online store which offered low priced music (through compulsory licensing).  There have been several opinions about if importation (say a US or Canadian purchasing music from their site) is legal, but every one seemed to agree the it depended upon  the laws of the country purchasing the product.<br />
Here&#8217;s a link to AllOfMp3 FAQ on the subject: <a href="http://allofmp3.ru/press/centre.shtml?s=993&#038;d=18191974&#038;r=291867496" rel="nofollow">http://allofmp3.ru/press/centre.shtml?s=993&#038;d=18191974&#038;r=291867496</a></p>
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		<title>By: ficbot</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/e-books-and-the-international-whisper-campaign-against-fair-use/comment-page-1/#comment-756520</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also an issue in this internet age. If I, in Canada, download a book from the internet, whose laws apply and how would they enforce it if they thought I wasn&#039;t following the rules?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also an issue in this internet age. If I, in Canada, download a book from the internet, whose laws apply and how would they enforce it if they thought I wasn&#8217;t following the rules?</p>
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		<title>By: Branko Collin</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/e-books-and-the-international-whisper-campaign-against-fair-use/comment-page-1/#comment-756304</link>
		<dc:creator>Branko Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with US copyright law in this respect that is that although you have great things like fair use, you also have things like statutory damages that could bankrupt a person in a single blow. Using fairly should not be a risk.

But IANAL. Has anybody ever been convicted to pay high damages after they tried to use a fair use defense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with US copyright law in this respect that is that although you have great things like fair use, you also have things like statutory damages that could bankrupt a person in a single blow. Using fairly should not be a risk.</p>
<p>But IANAL. Has anybody ever been convicted to pay high damages after they tried to use a fair use defense?</p>
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