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]]> By: Mike Cane http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/longtail-wars-how-book-publishing-suddenly-has-the-upper-hand-with-some-of-the-biggest-technology-companies-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-587834 Mike Cane Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:06:02 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/blog/?p=7334#comment-587834 >>>One move and suddenly Live Search is a player with attitude. Watch this space! But Live Search simply, well, sucks! Yahoo has gotten very good again, but inertia always has me going to Google (and for ref and quick bio lookup, yes, wikipedia). I don't know how old this article is, but no mention of Apple coming into ebooks? Watch *that* space! As for longtail, Warren Elllis just ran an interesting quote from the late Stanislaw Lem: http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5210 Discussion is here: http://telepho.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=1198913%3ATopic%3A252 >>>One move and suddenly Live Search is a player with attitude. Watch this space!

But Live Search simply, well, sucks! Yahoo has gotten very good again, but inertia always has me going to Google (and for ref and quick bio lookup, yes, wikipedia).

I don’t know how old this article is, but no mention of Apple coming into ebooks? Watch *that* space!

As for longtail, Warren Elllis just ran an interesting quote from the late Stanislaw Lem:

http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=5210

Discussion is here:

http://telepho.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=1198913%3ATopic%3A252

]]> By: Robert Nagle http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/longtail-wars-how-book-publishing-suddenly-has-the-upper-hand-with-some-of-the-biggest-technology-companies-in-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-587797 Robert Nagle Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:41:47 +0000 http://www.teleread.org/blog/?p=7334#comment-587797 findability and browsability are indeed gigantic issues. if your ebooks are online, it's never going to appear prominently on search results except for specialized topics. I think the answer is to have a user-created catalog like wikipedia which can consist of pages that group other pages by certain criteria ("best sci fi novels of the 1980s)" which then link to the main catalog entry on the litpedia. Wikipedia just trounces everybody in search results, almost to the point that I end up with wikipedia for about 50-75% of my queries for information. Here we have the aftereffects of monetization. The search engines have fudged around with search results with sponsored links and created a whole new industry to optimize SEO. I may be in the vocal minority, but I am finding google absolutely irrelevant when searching for book/literary terms. The problem relates to page vs. book. Current search engine technology is focused around the individual page, not the site itself (which in this case would be the book). Individual pages of a novel may not figure prominently in search results, but one would expect that the table of contents should always be at the top of search results. That is not often the case. findability and browsability are indeed gigantic issues. if your ebooks are online, it’s never going to appear prominently on search results except for specialized topics.

I think the answer is to have a user-created catalog like wikipedia which can consist of pages that group other pages by certain criteria (“best sci fi novels of the 1980s)” which then link to the main catalog entry on the litpedia. Wikipedia just trounces everybody in search results, almost to the point that I end up with wikipedia for about 50-75% of my queries for information.

Here we have the aftereffects of monetization. The search engines have fudged around with search results with sponsored links and created a whole new industry to optimize SEO. I may be in the vocal minority, but I am finding google absolutely irrelevant when searching for book/literary terms.

The problem relates to page vs. book. Current search engine technology is focused around the individual page, not the site itself (which in this case would be the book). Individual pages of a novel may not figure prominently in search results, but one would expect that the table of contents should always be at the top of search results. That is not often the case.

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