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	<title>Comments on: DRM makes for a Bad Apple: Why the music biz is skeptical of Jobs&#8217; copy-protection stand</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/drm-makes-for-a-bad-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-226095</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another issue here. Apple dominates the digital audio player market, and may become open to anti-trust legislation down the road if that dominance continues. Some EU countries have already made noise about interop issues with FairPlay.

Yes, you could sell OS X to run on any Intel hardware, but that is a really bad idea. Keeping OS X stable and reliable is easier when you have a limited universe of hardware to support. Two things that make Windows such a challenge is the vast array of legacy and current hardware Microsoft needs to support, and the fact that Microsoft has no control over the hardware Windows is installed on. 

OS X is the value proposition that drives sales of Mac hardware. That is their entire business model. 

If you think that FairPlay could be licensed out successfully, look at the propensity of &quot;Plays4Sure&quot; devices, which should really be called &quot;Might Play Possibly&quot;. Apple is focused entirely on the end user experience, and to maintain their quality standards requires being a control freak about the entire chain of hardware and software. Lets not forget that Microsoft&#039;s own Zune player and store *does not support their own Plays4Sure initiative*. 

I&#039;ll side with Steve-o on this one. Instead of dealing with licensing out FairPlay and having to deal with what to do when some software vendor lets the encryption keys out of the bag, just eliminate the problem entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another issue here. Apple dominates the digital audio player market, and may become open to anti-trust legislation down the road if that dominance continues. Some EU countries have already made noise about interop issues with FairPlay.</p>
<p>Yes, you could sell OS X to run on any Intel hardware, but that is a really bad idea. Keeping OS X stable and reliable is easier when you have a limited universe of hardware to support. Two things that make Windows such a challenge is the vast array of legacy and current hardware Microsoft needs to support, and the fact that Microsoft has no control over the hardware Windows is installed on. </p>
<p>OS X is the value proposition that drives sales of Mac hardware. That is their entire business model. </p>
<p>If you think that FairPlay could be licensed out successfully, look at the propensity of &#8220;Plays4Sure&#8221; devices, which should really be called &#8220;Might Play Possibly&#8221;. Apple is focused entirely on the end user experience, and to maintain their quality standards requires being a control freak about the entire chain of hardware and software. Lets not forget that Microsoft&#8217;s own Zune player and store *does not support their own Plays4Sure initiative*. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll side with Steve-o on this one. Instead of dealing with licensing out FairPlay and having to deal with what to do when some software vendor lets the encryption keys out of the bag, just eliminate the problem entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: Joscha Bach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joscha Bach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@pond:

From a cultural and ethical point of view, I am just as opposed to DRM as you are. It hinders the dissemination of ideas and free discourse, and it is a technology designed to do less, not more with the things in the world. DRM as such does not make the world a better place.

Yet DRM might make for better business, and for the &quot;content industry&quot;, this is the thing that counts. Apple is not just an arbitrary industry leader, it is primarily a hardware vendor, unlike for instance Warner. Lets not forget that until now, music and book sales are coupled to physical media. Some (small) successful business models have sprung from copy protected on-line sales, but until now, it is not clear if selling unprotected content on-line will ever go beyond a niche market.

Let us not mix this up: I am not trying to fight for (or against) industrial content marketing - I am just trying to get closer to the economical reasoning behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pond:</p>
<p>From a cultural and ethical point of view, I am just as opposed to DRM as you are. It hinders the dissemination of ideas and free discourse, and it is a technology designed to do less, not more with the things in the world. DRM as such does not make the world a better place.</p>
<p>Yet DRM might make for better business, and for the &#8220;content industry&#8221;, this is the thing that counts. Apple is not just an arbitrary industry leader, it is primarily a hardware vendor, unlike for instance Warner. Lets not forget that until now, music and book sales are coupled to physical media. Some (small) successful business models have sprung from copy protected on-line sales, but until now, it is not clear if selling unprotected content on-line will ever go beyond a niche market.</p>
<p>Let us not mix this up: I am not trying to fight for (or against) industrial content marketing &#8211; I am just trying to get closer to the economical reasoning behind it.</p>
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		<title>By: pond</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/drm-makes-for-a-bad-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-225972</link>
		<dc:creator>pond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 17:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Jobs&#039;s motives matter less to me than the fact that an industry leader, Apple, who is king-of-the-hill of the status quo, has come out and said, &quot;It would be a good idea to drop DRM.&quot;

We face the potential of the end of our culture via incompatible digital formats, both hardware-formats and software-formats. DRM makes for a third kind of formatting on top of the other two.

Every one of these renders it more difficult to read old texts, listen to old recordings, watch old movies, and so forth.

I see nothing in Joscha&#039;s essay to suggest that DRM is in any way &quot;good.&quot;

Let&#039;s keep our eyes on the ball here. It may well be that Steve Jobs is attempting to change the subject away from Norway&#039;s legal insistence that Apple open up FairPlay. But now that the topic is DRM, let&#039;s all remember that DRM is evil and we face an historic opportunity here where the media corporations just might be forced to do something that helps the consumers, students, readers, and the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Jobs&#8217;s motives matter less to me than the fact that an industry leader, Apple, who is king-of-the-hill of the status quo, has come out and said, &#8220;It would be a good idea to drop DRM.&#8221;</p>
<p>We face the potential of the end of our culture via incompatible digital formats, both hardware-formats and software-formats. DRM makes for a third kind of formatting on top of the other two.</p>
<p>Every one of these renders it more difficult to read old texts, listen to old recordings, watch old movies, and so forth.</p>
<p>I see nothing in Joscha&#8217;s essay to suggest that DRM is in any way &#8220;good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep our eyes on the ball here. It may well be that Steve Jobs is attempting to change the subject away from Norway&#8217;s legal insistence that Apple open up FairPlay. But now that the topic is DRM, let&#8217;s all remember that DRM is evil and we face an historic opportunity here where the media corporations just might be forced to do something that helps the consumers, students, readers, and the rest of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamas Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/copy-right/drm-makes-for-a-bad-apple/comment-page-1/#comment-225960</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamas Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So where is 97% of the songs coming from? Ripping CDs, right?
Come on!
Apple&#039;s iPods are selling because people can find tons of pirated content!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where is 97% of the songs coming from? Ripping CDs, right?<br />
Come on!<br />
Apple&#8217;s iPods are selling because people can find tons of pirated content!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe that DRM is crippling sales of media. However, I look suspiciously at Jobs statement. It seems to me that he has made a self-serving, and safe argument. He has said &quot;don&#039;t bother me; its the fault of those other guys&quot;. Meanwhile he gets off without having to pay attention to his own DRM woes.

Not only is fairplay an issue, but so is the way that Apple distributes its OS. There is no reason the Apple OS couldn&#039;t be released to run on a generic intel box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe that DRM is crippling sales of media. However, I look suspiciously at Jobs statement. It seems to me that he has made a self-serving, and safe argument. He has said &#8220;don&#8217;t bother me; its the fault of those other guys&#8221;. Meanwhile he gets off without having to pay attention to his own DRM woes.</p>
<p>Not only is fairplay an issue, but so is the way that Apple distributes its OS. There is no reason the Apple OS couldn&#8217;t be released to run on a generic intel box.</p>
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