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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Sony Reader: Nice, but No iPod,&#8217; Publishers Weekly reports</title>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a Sony Reader and it is an excellent device. I can use it with a book light and there is no strain on my eyes. It is small and lightweight and I can carry many books (10 at the moment) easily. I can listen to audio books on it too (as long as they&#039;re in the right format).

I am not sure why publishers view consumers as nuisances, but I am weary of it.

How about you try to make it work?

Why give me a good reason to buy someone else&#039;s books?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a Sony Reader and it is an excellent device. I can use it with a book light and there is no strain on my eyes. It is small and lightweight and I can carry many books (10 at the moment) easily. I can listen to audio books on it too (as long as they&#8217;re in the right format).</p>
<p>I am not sure why publishers view consumers as nuisances, but I am weary of it.</p>
<p>How about you try to make it work?</p>
<p>Why give me a good reason to buy someone else&#8217;s books?</p>
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		<title>By: McQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>McQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: &quot; one more proprietary format, reducing the enthusiasm of publishers who are sick of eBabel’s burden on them; &quot;

I still don&#039;t get this. Sony needs content from book publishers to be interesting. Thus it&#039;s in Sony&#039;s best interest to provide the tools to convert the book *content* to something in their format. If the tools exist, then where&#039;s the burden? It&#039;s effectively the e-book equivalent of having multiple ways to ship a paper book -- when a customer orders a book in a particular format, convert one for him and let him download it. You don&#039;t even have to keep the converted form around afterwards (it&#039;s just a speed/space trade-off). Heck, you can even just point him at the Sony story if he wants a BBeB book and squirt the content over to them for conversion/distribution.

Of course, the *content* is the real issue. How do you specify that &quot;source material&quot; that is fed to each eBook vendor? Well, obviously you want a single format for this, but it&#039;s important to realize that this is _not_the_full_on_eBabel_problem_. For example, there&#039;s no need for encryption or other DRM on this. The format only needs some reasonable way to express the basic content of the book (i.e. text + graphics + simple formatting, say an html subset) and can leave all the &quot;hard bits&quot; up to the person who wants to sell the book in that format.

Look at it this way: Music publishers don&#039;t need to figure out how to implement the iTunes DRM, they let Apple do that. The &quot;sound&quot; that the comes from the Music publisher is the equivalent of the &quot;source material&quot; that should come from the Book publisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8221; one more proprietary format, reducing the enthusiasm of publishers who are sick of eBabel’s burden on them; &#8221;</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t get this. Sony needs content from book publishers to be interesting. Thus it&#8217;s in Sony&#8217;s best interest to provide the tools to convert the book *content* to something in their format. If the tools exist, then where&#8217;s the burden? It&#8217;s effectively the e-book equivalent of having multiple ways to ship a paper book &#8212; when a customer orders a book in a particular format, convert one for him and let him download it. You don&#8217;t even have to keep the converted form around afterwards (it&#8217;s just a speed/space trade-off). Heck, you can even just point him at the Sony story if he wants a BBeB book and squirt the content over to them for conversion/distribution.</p>
<p>Of course, the *content* is the real issue. How do you specify that &#8220;source material&#8221; that is fed to each eBook vendor? Well, obviously you want a single format for this, but it&#8217;s important to realize that this is _not_the_full_on_eBabel_problem_. For example, there&#8217;s no need for encryption or other DRM on this. The format only needs some reasonable way to express the basic content of the book (i.e. text + graphics + simple formatting, say an html subset) and can leave all the &#8220;hard bits&#8221; up to the person who wants to sell the book in that format.</p>
<p>Look at it this way: Music publishers don&#8217;t need to figure out how to implement the iTunes DRM, they let Apple do that. The &#8220;sound&#8221; that the comes from the Music publisher is the equivalent of the &#8220;source material&#8221; that should come from the Book publisher.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/sony-reader-nice-but-no-ipod-publishers-weekly-reports/comment-page-1/#comment-91061</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 19:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake, what a terrific comparison. I myself like to use the example of having to buy proprietary reading glasses for books from different houses. - David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake, what a terrific comparison. I myself like to use the example of having to buy proprietary reading glasses for books from different houses. &#8211; David</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/sony-reader-nice-but-no-ipod-publishers-weekly-reports/comment-page-1/#comment-91058</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, best of luck with your Reader, Carl, and feel free to share your experiences here. - David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, best of luck with your Reader, Carl, and feel free to share your experiences here. &#8211; David</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Crist</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/sony-reader-nice-but-no-ipod-publishers-weekly-reports/comment-page-1/#comment-91051</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Crist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought a Sony Reader on Sunday.  Is it perfect?  No.  But I&#039;ve had the original Rocket eBook, the Hiebook, and the Ebookwise 1150.  This is a very solid reader and the display is great.  I&#039;ve downloaded almost all my books in RTF and it displays them very well.  I&#039;ve also emailed Fictionwise and asked them if they were going to offer a Sony Reader compatible format for their multiformat books.  They said that they are investigating it.

I still plan on making most of my book purchases in a non-DRM format, but it&#039;s also nice to have the options of purchasing some of the &quot;more popular&quot; books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a Sony Reader on Sunday.  Is it perfect?  No.  But I&#8217;ve had the original Rocket eBook, the Hiebook, and the Ebookwise 1150.  This is a very solid reader and the display is great.  I&#8217;ve downloaded almost all my books in RTF and it displays them very well.  I&#8217;ve also emailed Fictionwise and asked them if they were going to offer a Sony Reader compatible format for their multiformat books.  They said that they are investigating it.</p>
<p>I still plan on making most of my book purchases in a non-DRM format, but it&#8217;s also nice to have the options of purchasing some of the &#8220;more popular&#8221; books.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ellen! And remember, that invitation to do a Reader appreciation still holds! Plus, I&#039;ll welcome any of the usual, helpful Hage tips for newbies who are starting out with the Reader! - David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ellen! And remember, that invitation to do a Reader appreciation still holds! Plus, I&#8217;ll welcome any of the usual, helpful Hage tips for newbies who are starting out with the Reader! &#8211; David</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Ellen Hage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Ellen Hage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,  I didn&#039;t mean that you are not telling the truth.  I am afraid that I am already having Rocket ebook deja vu and I haven&#039;t even touched the Sony reader yet.  Hopefully, it will catch on.  I too am a victim of proprietary formats since I own at least one device of each of the Gemstar/Nuvomedia/Franklin/Hiebook/Ebookwise/Kolin/Librie.  Yes, I wish that I could move those books to my Sony ereader when it gets here, but I am trying to accept the fact it ain&#039;t gonna happen.  So when those devices hit the dust so will my many books.  The bright side is that my Cybook is still doing well and so is my T/X.  Now if I could  move my almost 500 books off those devices to the reader, I &#039;d be in heaven.  Maybe one day.  For right now I would just like people to try the experience of reading a book without paper.  

Keep up the hard work David!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,  I didn&#8217;t mean that you are not telling the truth.  I am afraid that I am already having Rocket ebook deja vu and I haven&#8217;t even touched the Sony reader yet.  Hopefully, it will catch on.  I too am a victim of proprietary formats since I own at least one device of each of the Gemstar/Nuvomedia/Franklin/Hiebook/Ebookwise/Kolin/Librie.  Yes, I wish that I could move those books to my Sony ereader when it gets here, but I am trying to accept the fact it ain&#8217;t gonna happen.  So when those devices hit the dust so will my many books.  The bright side is that my Cybook is still doing well and so is my T/X.  Now if I could  move my almost 500 books off those devices to the reader, I &#8216;d be in heaven.  Maybe one day.  For right now I would just like people to try the experience of reading a book without paper.  </p>
<p>Keep up the hard work David!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be slightly ridiculous to consider a p-book as a &quot;reading device&quot; (although technically it is certainly that)?
And yet this is how we (of necessity) tend to see the digital print world.  We conceive of &quot;playing&quot; print files on a &quot;player&quot;.    I hope that someday we can get away from this &quot;device-centric&quot; view entirely.   In fact I believe that at some point we will look back at &quot;e-book reading devices&quot; with the kind of whimsical nostalgia we reserve for horseless carriages and wireless sets.  Electronic paper does not have to be an &quot;ipod&quot;.  It can be seen as a medium rather than a device.  All you need is a way to transmit an electrical charge to particles (via wireless signal, barcode, RFID chip, memory etc.) and voila! a page turns. 

Picture a sheet of paper that just happens to display print which can be updated electronically, whether with today&#039;s news or an annotated edition of Moby Dick.   The medium is common as sand (think paper).
The interface: whatever you want it to be.    If e-paper becomes ubiquitous (sounds pie-in-the-sky now, but you might be suprised in a few years) the hardware issue kind of goes away.  That&#039;s why I wholeheartedly support open standards.   Don&#039;t kid yourself, the eventual stakes here are infinitely larger than a simple, cozy e-book reader.  

Pretend that way back in history, Sony or Philips (or e-ink Inc) &quot;invented&quot; and held the patent for tree-based, printable paper.  Can you conceive of the royalties due?  :)  Very big stakes indeed ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be slightly ridiculous to consider a p-book as a &#8220;reading device&#8221; (although technically it is certainly that)?<br />
And yet this is how we (of necessity) tend to see the digital print world.  We conceive of &#8220;playing&#8221; print files on a &#8220;player&#8221;.    I hope that someday we can get away from this &#8220;device-centric&#8221; view entirely.   In fact I believe that at some point we will look back at &#8220;e-book reading devices&#8221; with the kind of whimsical nostalgia we reserve for horseless carriages and wireless sets.  Electronic paper does not have to be an &#8220;ipod&#8221;.  It can be seen as a medium rather than a device.  All you need is a way to transmit an electrical charge to particles (via wireless signal, barcode, RFID chip, memory etc.) and voila! a page turns. </p>
<p>Picture a sheet of paper that just happens to display print which can be updated electronically, whether with today&#8217;s news or an annotated edition of Moby Dick.   The medium is common as sand (think paper).<br />
The interface: whatever you want it to be.    If e-paper becomes ubiquitous (sounds pie-in-the-sky now, but you might be suprised in a few years) the hardware issue kind of goes away.  That&#8217;s why I wholeheartedly support open standards.   Don&#8217;t kid yourself, the eventual stakes here are infinitely larger than a simple, cozy e-book reader.  </p>
<p>Pretend that way back in history, Sony or Philips (or e-ink Inc) &#8220;invented&#8221; and held the patent for tree-based, printable paper.  Can you conceive of the royalties due?  <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Very big stakes indeed &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current crop of ebook readers is still abysmal, both technically and ergonomically, and prospective non-technical readers shouldn&#039;t be led to think that they are ready for prime time. The iLiad and its ilk are getting there, but they are still pretty much beta-stage products. Maybe the next 5-10 years will bring both workable devices, and what&#039;s more important, workable e-books (i.e. things you can actually own and do with what you will instead of just renting them on a hyper-restrictive license the publisher can revoke almost at will).

As a consumer, I won&#039;t be buying any reader device until they get their act together and agree to a format that works on any device, anywhere. It&#039;s not like coming up with a multi-platform format is rocket science, the only thing stopping it is greed and stupidity (greed for money and the power to control supply, stupidity for not realising that it&#039;s the very reason why the market is so immature).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current crop of ebook readers is still abysmal, both technically and ergonomically, and prospective non-technical readers shouldn&#8217;t be led to think that they are ready for prime time. The iLiad and its ilk are getting there, but they are still pretty much beta-stage products. Maybe the next 5-10 years will bring both workable devices, and what&#8217;s more important, workable e-books (i.e. things you can actually own and do with what you will instead of just renting them on a hyper-restrictive license the publisher can revoke almost at will).</p>
<p>As a consumer, I won&#8217;t be buying any reader device until they get their act together and agree to a format that works on any device, anywhere. It&#8217;s not like coming up with a multi-platform format is rocket science, the only thing stopping it is greed and stupidity (greed for money and the power to control supply, stupidity for not realising that it&#8217;s the very reason why the market is so immature).</p>
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