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		<title>By: Joseph T. Sinclair</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/will-the-sony-reader-be-the-edsel-of-e-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-143442</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph T. Sinclair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that laptops may become the popular ebook readers of the future. They display (in color) PDFs well, and PDFs can be multimedia as well as text. The PDF is a powerful ebook standard.

Of course, many businesspeople who travel already use their laptops as ebook readers. At under $400 (under $150 used on eBay), laptops are near ubiquitous now. If there is a demand to make them smaller and lighter so as to be more book like, the design of laptops will evolve in that direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that laptops may become the popular ebook readers of the future. They display (in color) PDFs well, and PDFs can be multimedia as well as text. The PDF is a powerful ebook standard.</p>
<p>Of course, many businesspeople who travel already use their laptops as ebook readers. At under $400 (under $150 used on eBay), laptops are near ubiquitous now. If there is a demand to make them smaller and lighter so as to be more book like, the design of laptops will evolve in that direction.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 21:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you increase the font size on the sony reader? I hit the zoom, but stiil would like bigger print.

Do I need to do this in adobe, or through my computer?

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you increase the font size on the sony reader? I hit the zoom, but stiil would like bigger print.</p>
<p>Do I need to do this in adobe, or through my computer?</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/will-the-sony-reader-be-the-edsel-of-e-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-94034</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:-). Mea culpa. Probably best to mention the earlier poster by name. Actually this is a problem I like. You wanted to be civil. OK, now for Branko respond if he likes. Thanks, both of you! - David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Mea culpa. Probably best to mention the earlier poster by name. Actually this is a problem I like. You wanted to be civil. OK, now for Branko respond if he likes. Thanks, both of you! &#8211; David</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mahemoff</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/will-the-sony-reader-be-the-edsel-of-e-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-93857</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Mahemoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David, I was refuting Branko&#039;s post, not mine. Me, myself, and I are still in full agreement on this one :-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David, I was refuting Branko&#8217;s post, not mine. Me, myself, and I are still in full agreement on this one <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/will-the-sony-reader-be-the-edsel-of-e-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-91453</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re vid iPod: Your current msg, refers to an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teleread.com/blog/?p=5571#comment-89620&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;earlier one by you that you&#039;re refuting&lt;/a&gt;. Changed your mind? Forgetting about that, no, there is no proof there&#039;s a bigger iPod out there which would be highly e-book capable; but evidence from the patent filings and reports of contacts with publishers would certainly seem to suggest this as as &lt;em&gt;possibility&lt;/em&gt;. Furthermore, I doubt that Apple forever wants to leave the e-book market to others. Thanks, and happy reading. - David

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EARLIER POST

Just as Sony is “a textbook example of a hardware manufacturer compromised by the conglomerate’s content executives”, Apple is a textbook example of a hardware manufacturer whose executive(s) gets the it wholly right.

Apple has the video ipod in production, which ought to be a very capable reading device. Apple has the market share, the track record of making deals that keep everyone pretty happy, and the software on people’s desktops, with e-commerce built in as well (as of this month, it’s no longer the “Music” Store either - just the ITunes Store). The biggest threat to Sony and IRex will be Apple.

I thought the whole reason Sony was pushing ebooks is due to having seen Apple’s success in selling tunes, which is why they decided to allow open formats. Should Apple enter the fray in 2007, Sony will really have an opportunity to show if they have wisened their act up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re vid iPod: Your current msg, refers to an <a href="http://www.teleread.com/blog/?p=5571#comment-89620" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">earlier one by you that you&#8217;re refuting</a>. Changed your mind? Forgetting about that, no, there is no proof there&#8217;s a bigger iPod out there which would be highly e-book capable; but evidence from the patent filings and reports of contacts with publishers would certainly seem to suggest this as as <em>possibility</em>. Furthermore, I doubt that Apple forever wants to leave the e-book market to others. Thanks, and happy reading. &#8211; David</p>
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<p>EARLIER POST</p>
<p>Just as Sony is “a textbook example of a hardware manufacturer compromised by the conglomerate’s content executives”, Apple is a textbook example of a hardware manufacturer whose executive(s) gets the it wholly right.</p>
<p>Apple has the video ipod in production, which ought to be a very capable reading device. Apple has the market share, the track record of making deals that keep everyone pretty happy, and the software on people’s desktops, with e-commerce built in as well (as of this month, it’s no longer the “Music” Store either &#8211; just the ITunes Store). The biggest threat to Sony and IRex will be Apple.</p>
<p>I thought the whole reason Sony was pushing ebooks is due to having seen Apple’s success in selling tunes, which is why they decided to allow open formats. Should Apple enter the fray in 2007, Sony will really have an opportunity to show if they have wisened their act up.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Mahemoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Mahemoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Apple has the video ipod in production,”
It does?&lt;/em&gt;

Judging by every rumour site under the sun, it does. After all, Apple already has a half-baked video player with its current 5(.5)G ipod and the move to a full video player would be a no-brainer given all the other activity (ITV and movie downloads), as well as competition from Zune and elsewhere. Public patent information also provides evidence.

&lt;em&gt;“which ought to be a very capable reading device.”
It would?&lt;/em&gt;

It would. The display will be as good as any modern full-screen PDA/reader, and the device will likely be more user-friendly and with excellent sync support and e-commerce thanks to ITunes. (btw I&#039;m no mac fanatic http://softwareas.com/seven-things-about-itunes-that-are-just-plain-wrong, but they get things right more than anyone else.) The scroll-wheel in particular will be a nice way to browse.

&lt;em&gt;Are you talking about the current iPods with their unreadably tiny screens, or about mythical future iPods with somewhat larger screens? If the latter, what makes you think there will ever be such a device?&lt;/em&gt;
The mythical edition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Apple has the video ipod in production,”<br />
It does?</em></p>
<p>Judging by every rumour site under the sun, it does. After all, Apple already has a half-baked video player with its current 5(.5)G ipod and the move to a full video player would be a no-brainer given all the other activity (ITV and movie downloads), as well as competition from Zune and elsewhere. Public patent information also provides evidence.</p>
<p><em>“which ought to be a very capable reading device.”<br />
It would?</em></p>
<p>It would. The display will be as good as any modern full-screen PDA/reader, and the device will likely be more user-friendly and with excellent sync support and e-commerce thanks to ITunes. (btw I&#8217;m no mac fanatic <a href="http://softwareas.com/seven-things-about-itunes-that-are-just-plain-wrong" rel="nofollow">http://softwareas.com/seven-things-about-itunes-that-are-just-plain-wrong</a>, but they get things right more than anyone else.) The scroll-wheel in particular will be a nice way to browse.</p>
<p><em>Are you talking about the current iPods with their unreadably tiny screens, or about mythical future iPods with somewhat larger screens? If the latter, what makes you think there will ever be such a device?</em><br />
The mythical edition.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dashed-off Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dashed-off Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/will-the-sony-reader-be-the-edsel-of-e-ink/comment-page-1/#comment-89962</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 09:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Newrome:&lt;/em&gt; I actually have used the Sony Reader in a sense---in the form of its predecessor, the Librie, which I bought. The word is that the color of thenew  Sony&#039;s background is a &quot;bit&quot; brighter than the Librie&#039;s. But is that enough? I&#039;m asking Sony for a review unit. As for your complaints against my attacks on Sony&#039;s proprietary DRM, &lt;em&gt;thank you&lt;/em&gt;. The TeleBlog is relentlessly pro-user. Proprietary DRM as a preferred  business model is relentlessly anti-user. Sorry for the harsh language, but I&#039;m sick and tired of not being able to own e-books for real except for the public domain variety. In terms of the sheer functionality of the Sony Reader, yes, we&#039;re deep, deep, deep in &quot;merit&quot; territory, even if you can stand proprietary formats. Mobipocket and PDF (in both DRMed and nonDRMed forms) will leave Sony behind in the dust in terms of the number of books available.

&lt;em&gt;Greg&lt;/em&gt;: If Sony has the guts to send me a review unit, I&#039;ll test the ease of getting something converted from TXT. Perhaps Sony has done that right, and the masses can more easily enjoy public domain books, if they can find them.  But keep in mind that most books from major publishers are DRMed, so that if they are not in Sony&#039;s DRMed BBeB format, people are SOL. 

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Newrome:</em> I actually have used the Sony Reader in a sense&#8212;in the form of its predecessor, the Librie, which I bought. The word is that the color of thenew  Sony&#8217;s background is a &#8220;bit&#8221; brighter than the Librie&#8217;s. But is that enough? I&#8217;m asking Sony for a review unit. As for your complaints against my attacks on Sony&#8217;s proprietary DRM, <em>thank you</em>. The TeleBlog is relentlessly pro-user. Proprietary DRM as a preferred  business model is relentlessly anti-user. Sorry for the harsh language, but I&#8217;m sick and tired of not being able to own e-books for real except for the public domain variety. In terms of the sheer functionality of the Sony Reader, yes, we&#8217;re deep, deep, deep in &#8220;merit&#8221; territory, even if you can stand proprietary formats. Mobipocket and PDF (in both DRMed and nonDRMed forms) will leave Sony behind in the dust in terms of the number of books available.</p>
<p><em>Greg</em>: If Sony has the guts to send me a review unit, I&#8217;ll test the ease of getting something converted from TXT. Perhaps Sony has done that right, and the masses can more easily enjoy public domain books, if they can find them.  But keep in mind that most books from major publishers are DRMed, so that if they are not in Sony&#8217;s DRMed BBeB format, people are SOL. </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the viablity of the Sony Reader will depend on the ability to get books comercially.  If the connect store does not have the best sellers as soon as they come out and an extensive set of older books then they will fail.  10k books is not going to do it.  Otherwise only people who &quot;scan their own&quot; books will enjoy the reader.  I&#039;ll still enjoy mine but there is no way it will achieve real success to anyone other than geeks who can find/create their own content.  I&#039;m just glad that the reader will accept txt files and look forward to what the hacker community will do with this linux device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the viablity of the Sony Reader will depend on the ability to get books comercially.  If the connect store does not have the best sellers as soon as they come out and an extensive set of older books then they will fail.  10k books is not going to do it.  Otherwise only people who &#8220;scan their own&#8221; books will enjoy the reader.  I&#8217;ll still enjoy mine but there is no way it will achieve real success to anyone other than geeks who can find/create their own content.  I&#8217;m just glad that the reader will accept txt files and look forward to what the hacker community will do with this linux device.</p>
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		<title>By: Newrome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newrome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The negativity of the moderator has almost become unbearable. The tirades against Sony&#039;s DRM are simply overstated. The product will or will not sell based on its own merits. Merits which you can judge when you have actually USED the thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The negativity of the moderator has almost become unbearable. The tirades against Sony&#8217;s DRM are simply overstated. The product will or will not sell based on its own merits. Merits which you can judge when you have actually USED the thing.</p>
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		<title>By: accelzone - techie weblog &#187; RIYL: Hatinâ€™ On Sonyâ€™s Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>accelzone - techie weblog &#187; RIYL: Hatinâ€™ On Sonyâ€™s Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CrunchGear &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RIYL: Hatin&#8217; On Sony&#8217;s Reader</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrunchGear &#187; Blog Archive &#187; RIYL: Hatin&#8217; On Sony&#8217;s Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating discussion (I love when things really heat up around here! : ) 

Fact: I very recently bought a new Ipod Nano (8 gb) although could have purchased a new 30 gb 5G Ipod with vastly more storage and tons more capabilities for a mere $40 more.  Why? Because it is and does *exactly* what I want.  Form factor is perfect, battery life is fabulous,  and plenty of space for enough podcasts, audiobooks, language lessons, and music to literally last for weeks.  It is my ultimate audio educator/entertainer and feels customed designed for me .  Really, hard to express how delighted I am with it.
 
1) It took a couple of tech generations to even be conceived. Although I had some general ideas, in fact I didn&#039;t even really know *exactly* what I wanted until I found it. 

2) What fits me absolutely perfectly may be totally un-acceptable to others: NO video, NOT enough storage, NO wifi etc.etc.

One size (or color or style) of paper doesn&#039;t fit all - why should one e-reading solution?  (was recently horrified to hear my very young niece say she didn&#039;t like to check out library books because &quot;they have boogers in them&quot;, but I digress..)

I&#039;m excited about digital books (and texts) in general because they can utterly revolutionize the reading (and library,  and publishing, and education) paradigm.  I want to see buried, dusty, crumbling old books (and authors) given new digital life, discovered by an enthusiastic new generation of readers!
   
So, whatever that takes: Sony Reader, Irex, oled,  e-paper on cereal boxes - go for it!     There have been and will be many, many &quot;Edsels&quot; along the way to the &quot;perfect&quot; e-reading solution.  So what?

I know, because I&#039;ve used and purchased a boatload of &#039;em along the way and have no regrets, whatsoever.  Onward, comrades into the brave, new reading world and let&#039;s hope the money holds out... ! :) 

- Jake</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating discussion (I love when things really heat up around here! : ) </p>
<p>Fact: I very recently bought a new Ipod Nano (8 gb) although could have purchased a new 30 gb 5G Ipod with vastly more storage and tons more capabilities for a mere $40 more.  Why? Because it is and does *exactly* what I want.  Form factor is perfect, battery life is fabulous,  and plenty of space for enough podcasts, audiobooks, language lessons, and music to literally last for weeks.  It is my ultimate audio educator/entertainer and feels customed designed for me .  Really, hard to express how delighted I am with it.</p>
<p>1) It took a couple of tech generations to even be conceived. Although I had some general ideas, in fact I didn&#8217;t even really know *exactly* what I wanted until I found it. </p>
<p>2) What fits me absolutely perfectly may be totally un-acceptable to others: NO video, NOT enough storage, NO wifi etc.etc.</p>
<p>One size (or color or style) of paper doesn&#8217;t fit all &#8211; why should one e-reading solution?  (was recently horrified to hear my very young niece say she didn&#8217;t like to check out library books because &#8220;they have boogers in them&#8221;, but I digress..)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m excited about digital books (and texts) in general because they can utterly revolutionize the reading (and library,  and publishing, and education) paradigm.  I want to see buried, dusty, crumbling old books (and authors) given new digital life, discovered by an enthusiastic new generation of readers!</p>
<p>So, whatever that takes: Sony Reader, Irex, oled,  e-paper on cereal boxes &#8211; go for it!     There have been and will be many, many &#8220;Edsels&#8221; along the way to the &#8220;perfect&#8221; e-reading solution.  So what?</p>
<p>I know, because I&#8217;ve used and purchased a boatload of &#8216;em along the way and have no regrets, whatsoever.  Onward, comrades into the brave, new reading world and let&#8217;s hope the money holds out&#8230; ! <img src='http://www.teleread.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>- Jake</p>
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		<title>By: Branko Collin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Branko Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 15:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Apple has the video ipod in production,&lt;/i&gt;&quot; 

It does?

&quot;&lt;i&gt;which ought to be a very capable reading device.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

It would?

Are you talking about the current iPods with their unreadably tiny screens, or about mythical future iPods with somewhat larger screens? If the latter, what makes you think there will ever be such a device?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Apple has the video ipod in production,</i>&#8221; </p>
<p>It does?</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>which ought to be a very capable reading device.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>It would?</p>
<p>Are you talking about the current iPods with their unreadably tiny screens, or about mythical future iPods with somewhat larger screens? If the latter, what makes you think there will ever be such a device?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I love that!  I wish I had thought of the Edsel when it came to the Nokia 770!  With OS 2005, that comparison would have been apt!  (I trashed it mercilessly -- but *deservedly* -- but OS 2006 has improved it immensely.  I&#039;m even reading ebooks on it now!  I&#039;m posting this from it too!)

Sony as a company is a mess right now.  I expect this product to fall by the wayside within a year as Stringer tries to keep the PS3 from sinking the entire company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I love that!  I wish I had thought of the Edsel when it came to the Nokia 770!  With OS 2005, that comparison would have been apt!  (I trashed it mercilessly &#8212; but *deservedly* &#8212; but OS 2006 has improved it immensely.  I&#8217;m even reading ebooks on it now!  I&#8217;m posting this from it too!)</p>
<p>Sony as a company is a mess right now.  I expect this product to fall by the wayside within a year as Stringer tries to keep the PS3 from sinking the entire company.</p>
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