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		<title>By: victor</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/recent-english-sci-fi-at-project-gutenberg/comment-page-1/#comment-77677</link>
		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For more free ebooks, just go to our site at http://www.bookyards.com
Our science fiction site is small, but we have an extensive list of other ebooks.

For a list of free online libraries that specialize on science fiction, just go to the following link
http://www.bookyards.com/search_results.html?category_id=1801&amp;type=links</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more free ebooks, just go to our site at <a href="http://www.bookyards.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bookyards.com</a><br />
Our science fiction site is small, but we have an extensive list of other ebooks.</p>
<p>For a list of free online libraries that specialize on science fiction, just go to the following link<br />
<a href="http://www.bookyards.com/search_results.html?category_id=1801&#038;type=links" rel="nofollow">http://www.bookyards.com/search_results.html?category_id=1801&#038;type=links</a></p>
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		<title>By: MobileRead Networks - SciFi e-books at Project Gutenberg</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/recent-english-sci-fi-at-project-gutenberg/comment-page-1/#comment-77527</link>
		<dc:creator>MobileRead Networks - SciFi e-books at Project Gutenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 22:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] SciFi e-books at Project Gutenberg     Branko Collin, who is apparently associated with Distributed Proofreaders, has written the following about the new availability of SciFi e-books at Project Gutenberg.   &quot;Not too long ago Project Gutenberg started publishing sci-fi books from the Golden Age of science fiction (1950s - 1960s); we can do this because of non-renewed copyrights. Authors include H. Beam Piper, Andre Norton, Terry Gene Carr, Ray Cummings, Lester Del Rey, Murray Leinster, Carey Rockwell, and more. You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] SciFi e-books at Project Gutenberg     Branko Collin, who is apparently associated with Distributed Proofreaders, has written the following about the new availability of SciFi e-books at Project Gutenberg.   &quot;Not too long ago Project Gutenberg started publishing sci-fi books from the Golden Age of science fiction (1950s &#8211; 1960s); we can do this because of non-renewed copyrights. Authors include H. Beam Piper, Andre Norton, Terry Gene Carr, Ray Cummings, Lester Del Rey, Murray Leinster, Carey Rockwell, and more. You</p>
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		<title>By: Branko Collin</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/recent-english-sci-fi-at-project-gutenberg/comment-page-1/#comment-77464</link>
		<dc:creator>Branko Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Useful other link to go along with that one&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Keep in mind that for Americans it may be illegal to download from PG-AU.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;The Wikisource webpage argues that much of Lovecraft’s oeuvre is in the public domain because copyright renewals are missing from the relevant records databases. Project Gutenberg (U.S.) currently does not have any items listed under Lovecraft.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

We discussed this at Distributed Proofreaders; a reason that was brought forward (if I understood things correctly) is that the copyright clearable editions that we should use are incredibly rare, whereas publishers of later versions claim copyrights on the text.

False copyright claims generally do not deter us, but we need to be able to prove these claims are false.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;However, Project Gutenberg (Australia) currently does have a large number of post-1923 stories by Lovecraft. Perhaps these stories can now be moved to the U.S. server if the analysis presented by Wikisource is accurate.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Project Gutenberg is as much a organisation for legal analysis as it is for disseminating books. PG will not take on texts for which it has no proof of its copyright status. That sounds more like a thing for the World Ebook Library, or whatever its &lt;i&gt;nom du jour&lt;/i&gt; is. PG-AU is a separate entity, and may have other ideas about what constitutes legally valid proof. Also, the PG-AU versions may be based on books printed in Australia, and that comes with a diminished likelyhood that PG will clear these texts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Useful other link to go along with that one</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Keep in mind that for Americans it may be illegal to download from PG-AU.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>The Wikisource webpage argues that much of Lovecraft’s oeuvre is in the public domain because copyright renewals are missing from the relevant records databases. Project Gutenberg (U.S.) currently does not have any items listed under Lovecraft.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>We discussed this at Distributed Proofreaders; a reason that was brought forward (if I understood things correctly) is that the copyright clearable editions that we should use are incredibly rare, whereas publishers of later versions claim copyrights on the text.</p>
<p>False copyright claims generally do not deter us, but we need to be able to prove these claims are false.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>However, Project Gutenberg (Australia) currently does have a large number of post-1923 stories by Lovecraft. Perhaps these stories can now be moved to the U.S. server if the analysis presented by Wikisource is accurate.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Project Gutenberg is as much a organisation for legal analysis as it is for disseminating books. PG will not take on texts for which it has no proof of its copyright status. That sounds more like a thing for the World Ebook Library, or whatever its <i>nom du jour</i> is. PG-AU is a separate entity, and may have other ideas about what constitutes legally valid proof. Also, the PG-AU versions may be based on books printed in Australia, and that comes with a diminished likelyhood that PG will clear these texts.</p>
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		<title>By: Garson Poole</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/recent-english-sci-fi-at-project-gutenberg/comment-page-1/#comment-77402</link>
		<dc:creator>Garson Poole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Publishers Weekly&quot; says that Howard Phillips Lovecraft was &quot;the most important U.S. horror writer since Edgar Allan Poe and a big influence on nearly every major figure in the genre after his day.&quot; His works appear in the canon-forming &quot;Library of America&quot; series. Many of Lovecraft’s horror stories were also science fiction stories because he carefully constructed a speculative scientific explanation to replace the traditional supernatural justification within his tales.

The majority of his important works were written after the traditional copyright cutoff date of 1923. So I was enjoyably surprised to find that the Wikisource website has the full text of an &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:H._P._Lovecraft&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;extensive collection&lt;/A&gt; of Lovecraft’s stories that were written after 1923. The archive contains well known stories that have been made into movies and television shows such as &quot;Herbert West: Reanimator&quot;, &quot;The Shadow Over Innsmouth&quot;, &quot;Dagon&quot;, &quot;Pickman&#039;s Model&quot;. Unsurprisingly, the movies are loose adaptations of the stories – very loose.

The Wikisource webpage argues that much of Lovecraft&#039;s oeuvre is in the public domain because copyright renewals are missing from the relevant records databases. Project Gutenberg (U.S.) currently does not have any items listed under Lovecraft. The link provided by Rupert Packer lists a small number of pre-1923 items by Lovecraft. However, Project Gutenberg (Australia) currently does have a large number of post-1923 stories by Lovecraft. Perhaps these stories can now be moved to the U.S. server if the analysis presented by Wikisource is accurate. Also, perhaps the stories with SF content can be added to the Thunder Child website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Publishers Weekly&#8221; says that Howard Phillips Lovecraft was &#8220;the most important U.S. horror writer since Edgar Allan Poe and a big influence on nearly every major figure in the genre after his day.&#8221; His works appear in the canon-forming &#8220;Library of America&#8221; series. Many of Lovecraft’s horror stories were also science fiction stories because he carefully constructed a speculative scientific explanation to replace the traditional supernatural justification within his tales.</p>
<p>The majority of his important works were written after the traditional copyright cutoff date of 1923. So I was enjoyably surprised to find that the Wikisource website has the full text of an <a HREF="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:H._P._Lovecraft" rel="nofollow">extensive collection</a> of Lovecraft’s stories that were written after 1923. The archive contains well known stories that have been made into movies and television shows such as &#8220;Herbert West: Reanimator&#8221;, &#8220;The Shadow Over Innsmouth&#8221;, &#8220;Dagon&#8221;, &#8220;Pickman&#8217;s Model&#8221;. Unsurprisingly, the movies are loose adaptations of the stories – very loose.</p>
<p>The Wikisource webpage argues that much of Lovecraft&#8217;s oeuvre is in the public domain because copyright renewals are missing from the relevant records databases. Project Gutenberg (U.S.) currently does not have any items listed under Lovecraft. The link provided by Rupert Packer lists a small number of pre-1923 items by Lovecraft. However, Project Gutenberg (Australia) currently does have a large number of post-1923 stories by Lovecraft. Perhaps these stories can now be moved to the U.S. server if the analysis presented by Wikisource is accurate. Also, perhaps the stories with SF content can be added to the Thunder Child website.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/recent-english-sci-fi-at-project-gutenberg/comment-page-1/#comment-77389</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 06:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just the kind of post I&#039;d like to see more of. Many thanks, Branko! We know that sci-fi is a major genre within E-Book Land.

Meanwhile let me repeat an earlier invitation. We&#039;re looking for more contributors to the TeleBlog. Here&#039;s a possible chance not just to write about the technology but also about the e-book efforts of valuable group such as PG. &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:drNOSPAMteleread.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;E-mail me&lt;/a&gt;. - David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just the kind of post I&#8217;d like to see more of. Many thanks, Branko! We know that sci-fi is a major genre within E-Book Land.</p>
<p>Meanwhile let me repeat an earlier invitation. We&#8217;re looking for more contributors to the TeleBlog. Here&#8217;s a possible chance not just to write about the technology but also about the e-book efforts of valuable group such as PG. <a href="mailto:drNOSPAMteleread.com" rel="nofollow">E-mail me</a>. &#8211; David</p>
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		<title>By: Rupert Packer</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/recent-english-sci-fi-at-project-gutenberg/comment-page-1/#comment-77379</link>
		<dc:creator>Rupert Packer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 04:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Useful other link to go along with that one, that has a broader coverage list for those interested in that sort of thing :-

http://www.gutenberg.net.au/sfproject.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Useful other link to go along with that one, that has a broader coverage list for those interested in that sort of thing :-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gutenberg.net.au/sfproject.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gutenberg.net.au/sfproject.html</a></p>
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