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		<title>By: J. B. White</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1201670</link>
		<dc:creator>J. B. White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe you could share your experiences with other people about Elibron and review their service at FaceBook.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/ Elibron-Books/168024376553156

Best regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you could share your experiences with other people about Elibron and review their service at FaceBook.<br />
<a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/pages/</a> Elibron-Books/168024376553156</p>
<p>Best regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Zelchenko</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1165384</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Zelchenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 04:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I wouldn&#039;t go that far. All is definitely not well, unless all of the above customers, and all others who lost money, have had their orders fulfilled or their cash returned by Andrei Volgin&#039;s Elibron. These reports claim Elibron breached their contracts without any remorse and is continuing to operate without curing the problem.

I wish Yuri Prazelski all the best success with Adegi, but until Andrei Volgin addresses the book fulfillment problem to the satisfaction of all of his customers, I would recommend people stay away from Elibron. An offense to one is an offense to all. By saying, &quot;As long as I&#039;m okay, I don&#039;t care how others fare,&quot; we are only encouraging continued exploitation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I wouldn&#8217;t go that far. All is definitely not well, unless all of the above customers, and all others who lost money, have had their orders fulfilled or their cash returned by Andrei Volgin&#8217;s Elibron. These reports claim Elibron breached their contracts without any remorse and is continuing to operate without curing the problem.</p>
<p>I wish Yuri Prazelski all the best success with Adegi, but until Andrei Volgin addresses the book fulfillment problem to the satisfaction of all of his customers, I would recommend people stay away from Elibron. An offense to one is an offense to all. By saying, &#8220;As long as I&#8217;m okay, I don&#8217;t care how others fare,&#8221; we are only encouraging continued exploitation.</p>
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		<title>By: GD</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1157737</link>
		<dc:creator>GD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 15:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well After a long winter spring has sprung at Elibron!

I ordered books yesterday and the website claims it&#039;s been shipped yesterday. A remarkable feat considering a wait of six months on my previous order.

If there&#039;s not another post from this customer, all is well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well After a long winter spring has sprung at Elibron!</p>
<p>I ordered books yesterday and the website claims it&#8217;s been shipped yesterday. A remarkable feat considering a wait of six months on my previous order.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s not another post from this customer, all is well.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Stellman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1157495</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Stellman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 06:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, after the first two hits mentioned above, I got hooked on Rimsky-Korsakov scores and ordered (and received very quickly) Sadko and The Tsar&#039;s Bride. They are incredible bargains at $16.95 and $15.95, respectively, especially since Sadko is a professionally bound paperback of 428 pages! Both are piano/vocal scores, as is May Night. Only Golden Cockerel is a full orchestral score, although the others have occasional indications of the instrumentation. Sadko is not quite as clear as the others. The music is perfectly legible except in a few faded spots that can still be read, but the Russian text is sometimes problematic, especially stage directions which are printed in very small type. I purchased all four scores through Amazon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, after the first two hits mentioned above, I got hooked on Rimsky-Korsakov scores and ordered (and received very quickly) Sadko and The Tsar&#8217;s Bride. They are incredible bargains at $16.95 and $15.95, respectively, especially since Sadko is a professionally bound paperback of 428 pages! Both are piano/vocal scores, as is May Night. Only Golden Cockerel is a full orchestral score, although the others have occasional indications of the instrumentation. Sadko is not quite as clear as the others. The music is perfectly legible except in a few faded spots that can still be read, but the Russian text is sometimes problematic, especially stage directions which are printed in very small type. I purchased all four scores through Amazon.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Zelchenko</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1157449</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Zelchenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 20:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to let everyone know that I had a very happy conversation today with Yuri Prazelski, owner of Adegi. Adegi is a very reputable company in New York City which has taken over Elibron&#039;s book printing. Note that Mr. Prazelsky has no connection with Andrei Volgin or Elibron other than that they print Elibron&#039;s books for them, along with the books of hundreds of other companies.

Volgin&#039;s part is only to keep Elibron&#039;s servers running and selling e-books for download, which as you have seen may be reliable and unreliable as the case may be. This has no bearing on the quality of work done by the printing company, which, it appears from Steve Stellman&#039;s message above from December, is doing a much better job than Volgin could do on his own. I was frankly worried that Adegi was controlled by Elibron, and I am convinced it is totally independent.

As a longtime expert in this field, I&#039;d send my own books to Adegi.com based on what I know about them, and I will be referring people to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to let everyone know that I had a very happy conversation today with Yuri Prazelski, owner of Adegi. Adegi is a very reputable company in New York City which has taken over Elibron&#8217;s book printing. Note that Mr. Prazelsky has no connection with Andrei Volgin or Elibron other than that they print Elibron&#8217;s books for them, along with the books of hundreds of other companies.</p>
<p>Volgin&#8217;s part is only to keep Elibron&#8217;s servers running and selling e-books for download, which as you have seen may be reliable and unreliable as the case may be. This has no bearing on the quality of work done by the printing company, which, it appears from Steve Stellman&#8217;s message above from December, is doing a much better job than Volgin could do on his own. I was frankly worried that Adegi was controlled by Elibron, and I am convinced it is totally independent.</p>
<p>As a longtime expert in this field, I&#8217;d send my own books to Adegi.com based on what I know about them, and I will be referring people to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Elibron Team</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1157439</link>
		<dc:creator>Elibron Team</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Peter Zelchenko,
when we took over the business we took care of every single outstanding order. We left no unhappy customers. Instead of trashing our good name we suggest for you to check our consistent high customer satisfaction ratings at Amazon, AbeBooks and others.
We understand some things did not work out in your business but we suggest that you send your frustrations to a proper address.
Thank you.
Adegi Graphics
Elibron Support Team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Peter Zelchenko,<br />
when we took over the business we took care of every single outstanding order. We left no unhappy customers. Instead of trashing our good name we suggest for you to check our consistent high customer satisfaction ratings at Amazon, AbeBooks and others.<br />
We understand some things did not work out in your business but we suggest that you send your frustrations to a proper address.<br />
Thank you.<br />
Adegi Graphics<br />
Elibron Support Team.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Zelchenko</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1157406</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Zelchenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. Why don&#039;t you start by telling us who you are, so that people may know you? How do we know that you are not Andrei Volgin, or a friend of his?

After all, it appears evident from this page alone that hundreds or even thousands of people may have had money stolen from them by Elibron. Under those circumstances, I would think that it would be a very interesting story -- I mean the story of who you are and how it is possible that you can be so wonderfully comfortable working with Andrei Volgin. Please enlighten us.

I&#039;ll tell you a related story to get us started: When VolumeOne stopped taking print orders, we had about 20 or 30 that we could not fill. I personally spent several weeks going through that list, bending over backwards, and ensuring that every last one of them either had their order filled or had the charge credited. It was a lot of work. Why hasn&#039;t Elibron done that? Why would you (or anyone else) feel comfortable working with an individual that has caused so many people to suffer that they would complain like this online?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know. Why don&#8217;t you start by telling us who you are, so that people may know you? How do we know that you are not Andrei Volgin, or a friend of his?</p>
<p>After all, it appears evident from this page alone that hundreds or even thousands of people may have had money stolen from them by Elibron. Under those circumstances, I would think that it would be a very interesting story &#8212; I mean the story of who you are and how it is possible that you can be so wonderfully comfortable working with Andrei Volgin. Please enlighten us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll tell you a related story to get us started: When VolumeOne stopped taking print orders, we had about 20 or 30 that we could not fill. I personally spent several weeks going through that list, bending over backwards, and ensuring that every last one of them either had their order filled or had the charge credited. It was a lot of work. Why hasn&#8217;t Elibron done that? Why would you (or anyone else) feel comfortable working with an individual that has caused so many people to suffer that they would complain like this online?</p>
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		<title>By: Elibron Team</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1157340</link>
		<dc:creator>Elibron Team</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Peter Zelchenko,
when we stated above that we are a new company dealing with the Elibron books what exactly you did not understand?
Thank you.
Elibron Team
Adegi Graphics Support Team
elibron.orders@adegi.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Peter Zelchenko,<br />
when we stated above that we are a new company dealing with the Elibron books what exactly you did not understand?<br />
Thank you.<br />
Elibron Team<br />
Adegi Graphics Support Team<br />
<a href="mailto:elibron.orders@adegi.com">elibron.orders@adegi.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Zelchenko</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1157270</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Zelchenko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 23:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked fairly closely with Andrei Volgin of Elibron for about three years. I ran VolumeOne of Chicago, and Andrei was interested in my print-on-demand platform. Or, so he always claimed.

We had endless discussions over the phone and through e-mail, and after a time it became rather obvious that he was drawing heavily on my expertise and the connections I was making for him, without intending to finalize any sort of agreement.

We were two companies among a half-dozen or so (including 3BillionBooks, Sprout, ODMC, InstaBook, and LightningPrint) who were seriously working on the on-demand book problem from 1997 to about 2002. I introduced Andrei to all of these people. ODMC and Jeff Marsh ended up refining Jeff&#039;s machine and it is now called the Espresso BookMachine, after successfully settling with LightningSource on infringement of the late Harvey Ross&#039; patent 5,465,213 (eek, it&#039;s all still there in my head, though I can&#039;t remember what I had for breakfast). The rest of the companies are moribund or dead.

Volgin was a shady and indiscriminate operator who had made a significant amount of money operating factories in Russia. One does not want to know the details of that. His arrangement with the Moscow State Library, he told me, was to rehab their front entryway in exchange for five years&#039; exclusive access to digitally scan their books. He claimed to be doing 1,000 books per day and therefore would have a million books online before anyone else (this was an astonishing claim in those days, and a kind of a race). His operation was well-funded, in an odd and shady way, but as you can see he has no qualms about mistreating others. I would steer clear of anything he does.

If you are owed money by him, I recommend contacting your credit card companies and demanding a refund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked fairly closely with Andrei Volgin of Elibron for about three years. I ran VolumeOne of Chicago, and Andrei was interested in my print-on-demand platform. Or, so he always claimed.</p>
<p>We had endless discussions over the phone and through e-mail, and after a time it became rather obvious that he was drawing heavily on my expertise and the connections I was making for him, without intending to finalize any sort of agreement.</p>
<p>We were two companies among a half-dozen or so (including 3BillionBooks, Sprout, ODMC, InstaBook, and LightningPrint) who were seriously working on the on-demand book problem from 1997 to about 2002. I introduced Andrei to all of these people. ODMC and Jeff Marsh ended up refining Jeff&#8217;s machine and it is now called the Espresso BookMachine, after successfully settling with LightningSource on infringement of the late Harvey Ross&#8217; patent 5,465,213 (eek, it&#8217;s all still there in my head, though I can&#8217;t remember what I had for breakfast). The rest of the companies are moribund or dead.</p>
<p>Volgin was a shady and indiscriminate operator who had made a significant amount of money operating factories in Russia. One does not want to know the details of that. His arrangement with the Moscow State Library, he told me, was to rehab their front entryway in exchange for five years&#8217; exclusive access to digitally scan their books. He claimed to be doing 1,000 books per day and therefore would have a million books online before anyone else (this was an astonishing claim in those days, and a kind of a race). His operation was well-funded, in an odd and shady way, but as you can see he has no qualms about mistreating others. I would steer clear of anything he does.</p>
<p>If you are owed money by him, I recommend contacting your credit card companies and demanding a refund.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Stellman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1151249</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Stellman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 14:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I successfully and easily purchased two Elibron Rimsky-Korsakov scores through Amazon in the past 2 months (Oct-Dec 2009). I simply went to Amazon books section and entered Golden Cockerel or May Night. The prices were so low (under $20) that I figured I hardly had anything to lose. Each came within 10 days of the order and was exactly as advertised (Golden Cockerel / Le Coq D&#039;Or is a 366-page full orchestral score with Russian and French lyrics. May Night is the composer&#039;s own piano reduction in Russian, French, and German). The publisher is the elusive Elibron, but the vendor is Adegi Graphics, 200 William St., Suite 308, Port Chester, NY 10573, (914) 712-7300. P.S. They are crisp, clear scores, much easier to read than the free scores you can download from the University of Indiana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I successfully and easily purchased two Elibron Rimsky-Korsakov scores through Amazon in the past 2 months (Oct-Dec 2009). I simply went to Amazon books section and entered Golden Cockerel or May Night. The prices were so low (under $20) that I figured I hardly had anything to lose. Each came within 10 days of the order and was exactly as advertised (Golden Cockerel / Le Coq D&#8217;Or is a 366-page full orchestral score with Russian and French lyrics. May Night is the composer&#8217;s own piano reduction in Russian, French, and German). The publisher is the elusive Elibron, but the vendor is Adegi Graphics, 200 William St., Suite 308, Port Chester, NY 10573, (914) 712-7300. P.S. They are crisp, clear scores, much easier to read than the free scores you can download from the University of Indiana.</p>
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		<title>By: Elibron Customer Support</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1146093</link>
		<dc:creator>Elibron Customer Support</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Readers,
thank you very much for your comments. We would like to let you know that as of January of this year there is a new company handling the Elibron books - Adegi Graphics LLC. For the time we do this (about 9 months) we do not remember leaving a customer e-mail unanswered, most of the books we ship within 1 business day, sometimes it takes us longer but never more than 4 days.
Larger orders (15 books or more)  we sent via courier services for no additional charge regardless what part of the world they need to be sent to.
We also launched hardcover editions of our books.
If you are looking for a title not available on our site, we will always try to find it for you. If your book got lost in the mail we will always replace it free of charge and send it to you again also free of charge. We were also replacing undelivered orders placed with Elibron before January 2009.
We have to admit that occasionally we have server problems and we are working on it. 
We also admit about not being thrilled you calling us on the phone however if you need to talk to us we will answer the phone.
We are looking forward to your new orders.
Thank you,
Elibron Team
Adegi Graphics Support Team
elibron.orders@adegi.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Readers,<br />
thank you very much for your comments. We would like to let you know that as of January of this year there is a new company handling the Elibron books &#8211; Adegi Graphics LLC. For the time we do this (about 9 months) we do not remember leaving a customer e-mail unanswered, most of the books we ship within 1 business day, sometimes it takes us longer but never more than 4 days.<br />
Larger orders (15 books or more)  we sent via courier services for no additional charge regardless what part of the world they need to be sent to.<br />
We also launched hardcover editions of our books.<br />
If you are looking for a title not available on our site, we will always try to find it for you. If your book got lost in the mail we will always replace it free of charge and send it to you again also free of charge. We were also replacing undelivered orders placed with Elibron before January 2009.<br />
We have to admit that occasionally we have server problems and we are working on it.<br />
We also admit about not being thrilled you calling us on the phone however if you need to talk to us we will answer the phone.<br />
We are looking forward to your new orders.<br />
Thank you,<br />
Elibron Team<br />
Adegi Graphics Support Team<br />
<a href="mailto:elibron.orders@adegi.com">elibron.orders@adegi.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Davie</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1115598</link>
		<dc:creator>Davie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fascinating trail of events. I&#039;ve been reading one of their Scott novels, purchased through Amazon Marketplace. The digitisation comment explains the very high rate of odd typos. Letters must be scanned incorrectly then forced through a spell check, so &quot;son&quot; becomes &quot;zen&quot;. Mostly the meaning&#039;s easily worked out and as this is not one of Scott&#039;s best it can be an interesting diversion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fascinating trail of events. I&#8217;ve been reading one of their Scott novels, purchased through Amazon Marketplace. The digitisation comment explains the very high rate of odd typos. Letters must be scanned incorrectly then forced through a spell check, so &#8220;son&#8221; becomes &#8220;zen&#8221;. Mostly the meaning&#8217;s easily worked out and as this is not one of Scott&#8217;s best it can be an interesting diversion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1032440</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well this is interesting. Their site is up again. It appears to have been updated in 2009. And it no longer has the sign saying they don&#039;t sell books. But I&#039;m not sure whether I want to risk a large purchase. Has anyone had any luck with them in recent times? Amazon doesn&#039;t stock the rather specialised books that I want - they&#039;re pretty rare, or completely unavailable, which is why elibron retains my fascination despite the tales of woe above.

Any thoughts or comments welcome.
Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this is interesting. Their site is up again. It appears to have been updated in 2009. And it no longer has the sign saying they don&#8217;t sell books. But I&#8217;m not sure whether I want to risk a large purchase. Has anyone had any luck with them in recent times? Amazon doesn&#8217;t stock the rather specialised books that I want &#8211; they&#8217;re pretty rare, or completely unavailable, which is why elibron retains my fascination despite the tales of woe above.</p>
<p>Any thoughts or comments welcome.<br />
Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Pickburn</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1032119</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Pickburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ordered a book in June 2008, was charged twice for it and I still have not received it. My email enquiries continue to bounce so I give up. I won&#039;t be dealing with Elibron again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ordered a book in June 2008, was charged twice for it and I still have not received it. My email enquiries continue to bounce so I give up. I won&#8217;t be dealing with Elibron again.</p>
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		<title>By: annie gray</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/ebooks/elibroncom-still-in-biz/comment-page-2/#comment-1002218</link>
		<dc:creator>annie gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ordered one of their facsimile books via amazon in December - arrived without any issues, BUT the back page states that the book is printed by amazon.co.uk. I&#039;d advise ordering through amazon in the future - with the added benefit that despite the slightly ebay-esque dodginess of the &#039;marketplace&#039; they tend to be better at not taking payment before dispatch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ordered one of their facsimile books via amazon in December &#8211; arrived without any issues, BUT the back page states that the book is printed by amazon.co.uk. I&#8217;d advise ordering through amazon in the future &#8211; with the added benefit that despite the slightly ebay-esque dodginess of the &#8216;marketplace&#8217; they tend to be better at not taking payment before dispatch.</p>
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