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	<title>Comments on: PG, World eBook Library, and Michael Hart&#8217;s retirement plans</title>
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/uncategorized/pg-world-ebook-library-and-michael-harts-retirement-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-57532</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 07:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teleread.com/blog/?p=4808&quot;&gt;go&lt;/a&gt;, Garson--a link from the TeleBlog&#039;s home page. Better, you should write me at drNOSPAMteleread.com to request a TeleBlog account so you can post there yourself.  After nearly 30 articulate and thoughtful comments, I think you deserve to be on the home page. - David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you <a href="http://www.teleread.com/blog/?p=4808">go</a>, Garson&#8211;a link from the TeleBlog&#8217;s home page. Better, you should write me at drNOSPAMteleread.com to request a TeleBlog account so you can post there yourself.  After nearly 30 articulate and thoughtful comments, I think you deserve to be on the home page. &#8211; David</p>
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		<title>By: Garson Poole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garson Poole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 02:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your link to previous coverage of this general topic. As a taxpayer and citizen I favor open access to publications created by public-funded researchers, and now some senators agree. The Washington Post has a recent article entitled &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/02/AR2006050201506.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill Seeks Access to Tax-Funded Research&lt;/A&gt; that you may wish to cite in a blog post. Here is an excerpt:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The legislation, which would demand that most recipients of federal grants make their findings available free on the Web within six months after they are published in a peer-reviewed journal, represents a rebuke to scientific publishers, who have asserted that free access to their contents would undercut their paid subscription base.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is an excellent mandate. When I was in academia I wrote research papers and provided peer reviews without any compensation. I also sat on editorial program committees without any compensation. My field of expertise is computer science but this system of reliance on “volunteers” is probably common in other fields. Monetary compensation is provided indirectly by obtaining “prestige” within a research area which leads to increased salary and promotions. Hence, the following quote in the article is almost laughable: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;But Patricia S. Schroeder, president and chief executive of the Association of American Publishers, promised a fight. &quot;It is frustrating that we can&#039;t seem to get across to people how expensive it is to do the peer review, edit these articles and put them into a form everyone can understand,&quot; Schroeder said.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your link to previous coverage of this general topic. As a taxpayer and citizen I favor open access to publications created by public-funded researchers, and now some senators agree. The Washington Post has a recent article entitled <a HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/02/AR2006050201506.html" rel="nofollow">Bill Seeks Access to Tax-Funded Research</a> that you may wish to cite in a blog post. Here is an excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>The legislation, which would demand that most recipients of federal grants make their findings available free on the Web within six months after they are published in a peer-reviewed journal, represents a rebuke to scientific publishers, who have asserted that free access to their contents would undercut their paid subscription base.
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<p>This is an excellent mandate. When I was in academia I wrote research papers and provided peer reviews without any compensation. I also sat on editorial program committees without any compensation. My field of expertise is computer science but this system of reliance on “volunteers” is probably common in other fields. Monetary compensation is provided indirectly by obtaining “prestige” within a research area which leads to increased salary and promotions. Hence, the following quote in the article is almost laughable: </p>
<blockquote><p>But Patricia S. Schroeder, president and chief executive of the Association of American Publishers, promised a fight. &#8220;It is frustrating that we can&#8217;t seem to get across to people how expensive it is to do the peer review, edit these articles and put them into a form everyone can understand,&#8221; Schroeder said.
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		<title>By: David Rothman</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/uncategorized/pg-world-ebook-library-and-michael-harts-retirement-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-57489</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 17:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garson and Branko...

GARSON: I hope you write more on these issues, which I&#039;ve covered in such posts as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.teleread.com/blog/?p=3160&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;d love to see more. I can give you access to the main part of the blog to get your message across better.

BRANKO: Oh, how I agree with you! Libraries should be &lt;em&gt;giving away&lt;/em&gt; high-quality public domain books, which they themselves obtained for free, thanks to the efforts of DP and the like.

Thanks,
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garson and Branko&#8230;</p>
<p>GARSON: I hope you write more on these issues, which I&#8217;ve covered in such posts as <a href="http://www.teleread.com/blog/?p=3160" rel="nofollow">this one</a>. I&#8217;d love to see more. I can give you access to the main part of the blog to get your message across better.</p>
<p>BRANKO: Oh, how I agree with you! Libraries should be <em>giving away</em> high-quality public domain books, which they themselves obtained for free, thanks to the efforts of DP and the like.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Branko Collin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Branko Collin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 17:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Remember, you’re supposed to be able to download public domain books for free from the Net.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

How many libraries do you know that offer their patrons public domain e-books that the libraries themselves downloaded off the internet? IIRC you have been publishing countless stories here about how libraries much prefer to buy their free books from companies like Overdrive. It&#039;s silly, and solely based in fears, but there you have it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Remember, you’re supposed to be able to download public domain books for free from the Net.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>How many libraries do you know that offer their patrons public domain e-books that the libraries themselves downloaded off the internet? IIRC you have been publishing countless stories here about how libraries much prefer to buy their free books from companies like Overdrive. It&#8217;s silly, and solely based in fears, but there you have it.</p>
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		<title>By: Garson Poole</title>
		<link>http://www.teleread.com/uncategorized/pg-world-ebook-library-and-michael-harts-retirement-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-57367</link>
		<dc:creator>Garson Poole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 12:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Rothman says “Remember, you’re supposed to be able to download public domain books for free from the Net.” That statement does sound reasonable, and if you believe that free unencumbered downloading of public domain material is a desirable goal then there is another much larger and more significant organization you should be intensively questioning. JSTOR at www.jstor.org calls itself “The Scholarly Journal Archive” and states that it has 606 journals online and 20,654,224 pages of information. Some of this material is from old issues of journals that are in the public domain. But even the material that is not in the public domain was arguably primarily paid for by the public. 

There were and are massive taxpayer-funded subsidies given to universities and to faculty members performing the type of research that appears in these journals. Why is this material locked up from the general public? What possible justification can be given for this deliberate impoverishment of the public discourse? A healthy vibrant society depends on high-quality public communication, and yet some of the highest quality information is hidden from view and unindexed by the major search engines.

Only an “elite” club of participant institutions can access the archive. Incongruously, these non-profit institutions often claim to be dedicated to the ideals of education and enlightenment. However, they are enforcing selective data access privileges, and hence they are exacerbating societal inequities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Rothman says “Remember, you’re supposed to be able to download public domain books for free from the Net.” That statement does sound reasonable, and if you believe that free unencumbered downloading of public domain material is a desirable goal then there is another much larger and more significant organization you should be intensively questioning. JSTOR at <a href="http://www.jstor.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.jstor.org</a> calls itself “The Scholarly Journal Archive” and states that it has 606 journals online and 20,654,224 pages of information. Some of this material is from old issues of journals that are in the public domain. But even the material that is not in the public domain was arguably primarily paid for by the public. </p>
<p>There were and are massive taxpayer-funded subsidies given to universities and to faculty members performing the type of research that appears in these journals. Why is this material locked up from the general public? What possible justification can be given for this deliberate impoverishment of the public discourse? A healthy vibrant society depends on high-quality public communication, and yet some of the highest quality information is hidden from view and unindexed by the major search engines.</p>
<p>Only an “elite” club of participant institutions can access the archive. Incongruously, these non-profit institutions often claim to be dedicated to the ideals of education and enlightenment. However, they are enforcing selective data access privileges, and hence they are exacerbating societal inequities.</p>
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